Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 04:04:24 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org> To: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> Cc: Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>, Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>, Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@atg.aciworldwide.com>, Bernd Walter <ticso@mail.cicely.de>, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: uucp user shell and home directory Message-ID: <20011006040424.A89151@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <3BBEDC60.F8599D84@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 03:26:40AM -0700 References: <15292.43702.284147.973393@nomad.yogotech.com> <3BBD8369.835E9190@mindspring.com> <20011005130234.B79332@xor.obsecurity.org> <3BBEC328.BBA18D7C@mindspring.com> <20011006014817.A87811@xor.obsecurity.org> <3BBEC895.7DDC13C4@mindspring.com> <20011006021556.A88143@xor.obsecurity.org> <3BBECE11.94EDC09D@mindspring.com> <20011006025321.A88421@xor.obsecurity.org> <3BBEDC60.F8599D84@mindspring.com>
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--jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 03:26:40AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > > I know *you* have full-time IP connectivity to the internet and the > > > > ability to host a distfile somewhere under your control. > > > > > > Fat lot you know. > >=20 > > Come now, Terrence, do you really mean to tell me a man of your > > resourcefulness, a man with 20 years of internet experience, has no > > way to publically host a single file on the internet? >=20 > I could rent one at a colocation facility. But I live in Silicon > Valley, and I can't even get a connection faster than an ISDN line; > I'm 2000 feet "too far away" for DSL. >=20 > As to your "I know" statement, this is being sent over a 28k > modem connection -- hardly what you'd use to host a UUCP > project and FTP archive. sourceforge. Failing that, we'd just need to find someone willing to give you a SSH account on their FTP server; I bet there'd be dozens of volunteers willing to host actual code from Terrence R. Lambert on their system! > If I did rent one, I'd have a far better use for it than > hosting a project to pick up software evicted from various > projects source trees. So..you don't really care about working on the UUCP code after all? Colour me unsurprised! > > Congratulations, you once did some useful work 6 years ago. Have a > > showbag and a medal. >=20 > Just because not everyone credits my patches when they are > committed, doesn't mean they don't exist. I guess if you > paid as much attention to the mailing lists as you do to > deleting from the base system software you don't personally > find useful, you'd know that. Oh, I'm well aware of the amount of code you make available. So are most of us on these lists. > I have code in Linux, as well (I guess that's politically > incorrect to admit). >=20 > I notice you still haven't provided a real rationale for > the UUCP eviction, and are turning the converation to > other topics... I've held the same position for weeks, and my arguments have been made, and made over. What I *do* notice is that you're now trying to divert the topic away from your own reluctance to follow through with all the things you've been saying should be done with UUCP over the course of this thread. Okay, I'm not playing any more. Terry, I've tried to cater to your ideas of what should be done with UUCP port development; I've encouraged you to follow through on them (tempered, I'll admit, with a large amount of cynicism as to your real intentions), I've given you advice and found solutions on how to do some of the things you've claimed are not possible for you to do, and I've offered my own time to commit the changes you submit. You've turned me down; that's your prerogative. But it's now perfectly clear that you never did have any intention of contributing work to UUCP, and you were just taking your martyr complex for its weekly walk around the block. You may recall that this isn't the first time I've tried to offer my help in developing and committing your changes to an area of FreeBSD which you've complained about -- although at least this time you didn't just ignore my emails outright so you could continue to play the persecuted hero. I'm probably not going to make the offer again, because you've rebuffed me twice now and there's no indication that you'll act any differently in the future than you have for the past 3 years I've seen you act this way. Now, how about we both shut up about UUCP, and we leave each other in peace so you can go away and think up your next topic to get worked up about, and then you can come back again in about a week to tell us all about how it should be fixed, and how easy that would be to do? Kris --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7vuU3Wry0BWjoQKURAqI9AKCzqmBad0p0MBCnCqWnrEdb7ptABACgnRA4 IRl3DvDyhcz8/h5YSbNyMT8= =5Ges -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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