Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2024 11:06:43 +0100 From: "Rolf M. Dietze" <rmd@orbit.in-berlin.de> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Removing fdisk and bsdlabel (legacy partition tools) Message-ID: <20240125110643.Horde.JYLuEs0B1_NKsaMRkxZ-TbP@webmail.in-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <20240125055019.CCF1973@slippy.cwsent.com> References: <202401242347.40ONlWKZ099356@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> <20240125050736.A11871AC@slippy.cwsent.com> <CANCZdfq%2BF1iFpUkDEYdcxPJfp96Ymz8KjBGaK_JNN1i09s7P=A@mail.gmail.com> <20240125055019.CCF1973@slippy.cwsent.com>
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Quoting Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>: > In message <CANCZdfq+F1iFpUkDEYdcxPJfp96Ymz8KjBGaK_JNN1i09s7P=A@mail.gmail.c > om> > , Warner Losh writes: >> --000000000000b0adc9060fbe7411 >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> >> On Wed, Jan 24, 2024, 10:07=E2=80=AFPM Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.c= >> om> >> wrote: >> >> > In message <202401242347.40ONlWKZ099356@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>, "Rodney W. >> > Grimes" >> > writes: >> > > > I would agree personally, to moving to ports (eg ports/sysutils) with >> > > > a DEPRECATED in the DESCR or something, or better yet a Make >> > > > invokation event to say "superceded, here is how to proceed against >> > > > advice") or something. >> > > >> > > They are totally useless as ports when your booted from install >> > > media and working from a standalone shell. These are the exact >> > > times you want things like fdisk and bsdlabel so you can figure >> > > out wtf is going on, and bsdinstall is NOT gona help you. >> > >> > This is certainly a good point. >> > >> >> What can they do that gpart can't do? > > This was quite a while ago, booted off my recovery USB attempting to repair > some self caused damage. The ability to edit (vi) a file with starting > addresses and lengths, visually using bsdlabel, was suited to my panicked > state as I worked to recover the machine. > > A visual view of columns of a bsdlabel, editing a label using vi, checking > and double checking numbers before committing them is handy.The visual > format and the ability to adjust the numbers in an editor before committing > them is handy. You can't do this with gpart, as it's transactional. And > bsdinstall doesn't give one the opportunity to check the numbers in detail > on a console before committing them. > > Maybe a good GSoC project may be to replace bsdlabel's driect writes to > disk with geom calls. Though, t doesn't need to be bsdlabel, but some kind > of utility that displays the existing label in an editor session where > changes can be made, using the editor, and committed. This could even be an > enhancement to bsdinstall: call it expert mode or whatever. well, I'v been there many times. There is another regular usecase, this time for fdisk for me, that ist repairing a windows boot disk. I have no idea of waht to use if not fdisk to do that, rather than booting linux to run fdisk for windows repairs. That in fact would be the only linux box, only to support windows... /rmd
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