Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 01:47:01 -0800 From: "Garrett Cooper" <yanefbsd@gmail.com> To: "Tim Kientzle" <kientzle@freebsd.org> Cc: Andrew Reilly <andrew-freebsd@areilly.bpc-users.org>, "Conrad J. Sabatier" <conrads@cox.net>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Alexander Churanov <alexanderchuranov@gmail.com>, Beech Rintoul <beech@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: i give up Message-ID: <7d6fde3d0812040147w4dfb42b7iec5372e611399da4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49338183.3040500@freebsd.org> References: <20081128234155.0221e263@serene.no-ip.org> <3cb459ed0811291342i524eaab3g1acadcd9cbdb638b@mail.gmail.com> <7d6fde3d0811291556g3f08a814td68466ad02dee4fc@mail.gmail.com> <200811291515.01962.beech@freebsd.org> <4932DD73.9000109@freebsd.org> <20081130235621.GA51043@duncan.reilly.home> <49338183.3040500@freebsd.org>
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On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Tim Kientzle <kientzle@freebsd.org> wrote: > Andrew Reilly wrote: >> >> On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 10:37:39AM -0800, Tim Kientzle wrote: >> >>> I wonder if there's some way to partially automate >>> collecting some of this information. >> >> There is. Just install ports/sysutils/bsdstats, set the >> appropriate frobs in /etc/rc.conf and be happy. Look at the >> http://bsdstats.org/ page from time to time. > > This is a start towards what I had in mind, but > still has a ways to go. Here are a few questions > I would like to ask of such a database: > > "What ethernet cards have people used with FreeBSD 7.0?" > > This would require being able to start from > a particular OS (and version?). > > "I have a Broadcom card, what driver do I need with FreeBSD 7?" > > This requires being able to navigate from OS/version > to device type, manufacturer, then driver. This > should also have callouts for any driver that's not > part of the GENERIC kernel. > > "pciconf just gave me an ID xyz123; what chip is that?" > > I see device names but not hardware-level IDs. > > "Any suggestions for a good network card to buy?" > > This information seems to stop at the chipset level. > When I go to the store, very few boxes have chipset > names on them. It would be good to give users the > option to provide a manufacturer (and product name?) > for the card or motherboard in use. Such information > would necessarily be more sporadic than the automatically > collected information, but it would build up over time. > > Based on the numbers here, I'm going to guess that > PC-BSD has this service turned on by default. You > should talk to folks maintaining installers for other > systems about possibly getting it integrated there. > (With clearly-worded notices about data being anonymous, > etc.) > > It would also be interesting to use this from the installer > to look up missing drivers (enumerate PCI IDs for any > device that didn't attach a driver and query the bsdstats > service for information about that device); this would > make it a lot easier for users to find drivers supported > out-of-tree. > > Such a database could provide very useful information to the > development community ("most popular unsupported ethernet > cards") and to users ("most popular supported ethernet > cards"). > > Tim Sounds like you're looking for something like Kudzu for Redhat. -Garrett
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