Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:07:48 -0500 From: "Mike" <mike@sixpak.net> To: "Doug Young" <dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au>, "Y" <ure@home.com>, <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Re[2]: AMD Duron Message-ID: <011801c08580$8cd74480$020aa8c0@sixpak.net> References: <005b01c084e7$051ccfe0$844285ca@client1> <3A6D9AD0.A408B578@home.com> <002c01c0852a$1d0a5170$837e03cb@dougy> <921331965.20010123031256@home.com> <007501c0857b$30785d00$837e03cb@dougy>
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I have to disagree with Doug here. I've had experience with two different AMD CPUs directly and have built servers using them for customers for the past six months. NONE of these servers have had any type of problem for any reason. My current Linux server for home use has been operating flawlessly for over six months (I had to boot it due to a power outage almost three months ago that lasted longer than my UPS). This server runs a variety of services so the processor is definently running (although I'm sure rarely at 100% unless I'm compiling something) all the time. The other AMD processer was an old 200MHz that's been running and operating for about four years. I just purchased a 1GHz AMD processor for a windows box and I'm proud to say that Windows hasn't crashed any more often than it did with my 450MHz Intel processor. I think Doug just got a bad CPU for whatever reason or a bad motherboard. It happens. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Young" <dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au> To: "Y" <ure@home.com>; <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 3:29 PM Subject: Re: Re[2]: AMD Duron > Various problems, generally of the "tearing hair out" variety ..... > spontaneous reboots are common with WinNT, as are really stupid installation > "features" with Win2000 (gets started normally then "loses" the (IDE) CD > drive. I've had no end of weird hardware conflicts with both WinNT & Win2000 > that can never be properly resolved, & the uncertain lifetime of the CPU is > a concern (they don't appear to have anything like the life of Intel ones) I > can't imagine overclocking the things ... they don't last much more than a > year in standard form anyway !!!! (and YES the ones I've tried all had > heatsink paste / bigger fans / blah / blah / blah) > > Actually we DID have an AMD in a FreeBSD box used as a news server ...... > well it was built & commissioned but it never did work for longer than a day > before crashing. Every component of the system was replaced (several times > over / various breeds) without making the slightest difference. It was only > when the CPU was replaced by a proper Intel that the problems disappeared. > Since then we'll never have another of those disasters in the place ... none > of the Intel sytems have given unusual hardware problems like those > experienced with the AMD one. > > The problems I've had are mostly "off topic" for this list as they don't > concern FreeBSD directly, however a number of enquiries talk about dual > booting so thats why I reported my experiences. Given the apparently > "features" of AMD that I've seen with other operating systems I can't see > the point in using them in FreeBSD. Judging from the email addresses of > those who swear AMD chips are the bees knees, they are probably mostly > gameplayers. As I said in an earlier posting I have no interest whatever in > that area ..... however I'll need to be convinced that AMD have lifted their > game considerably before I'll use another one in a business environment. > > > > on a net i administer we have two small offices as parts of a > > MAN that we run on Durons plus one TBird MS SQL 7 server > > machine on MSI and DFI boards. 38 NT 4 workstations and one > > server: no AMD specific problems whatsoever. this home machine > > is also Duron 600(512 RAM) running FreeBSD, Linux and W2k Pro the > only > > problems i noticed with Win are the same we have with Pentiums > > as well. What troubles do you experience with AMD ? I am > > asking, because we are contemplating to lay a few larger LANs > > out using it. > > > > TIA > > -- > > Best regards, > > Y > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message
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