Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2015 09:13:39 -0453.75 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam@hiwaay.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HTTPS on freebsd.org, git, reproducible builds Message-ID: <55FD6C49.6090008@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <20150919133248.GB21849@zxy.spb.ru> References: <CAD2Ti2_YNkNi2b=PzFCwu3PVaP8hOzADys3=-k0AqvsDRhJpzA@mail.gmail.com> <86vbb7dhaa.fsf@nine.des.no> <20150918134804.GU3158@zxy.spb.ru> <86oagzwf8j.fsf@nine.des.no> <20150919125023.GA21849@zxy.spb.ru> <20150919151517.739ab70a.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150919133248.GB21849@zxy.spb.ru>
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On 09/19/15 08:39, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 03:15:17PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 15:50:23 +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
>>> On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 12:10:36AM +0200, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
>>>
>>>> Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> writes:
>>>>> freebsd-update builds is inreproducible by the freebsd-update-server bug[s].
>>>> freebsd-update will most likely be gone in 11.
>>> What is planed for replacement?
>> As far as I could understand, pkg will deal with the components
>> comprising the OS in the same manner as it does for the ports
>> collection. So the kernel, the userland, the sources and so on
>> will "become packages" for pkg to install or upgrade. This is
>> a similar approach to common package management on Linux, except
>> that Linux (as a term to summarize all the many distributions)
>> doesn't have an OS ("the base OS") per se.
> This is very bad.
>
>> You can already see this kind of development: The documentation
>> has become a package, and the package manager itself is a
>> package (separated from the OS, which only contains a bootstrap
>> loader for the real program). Finally, the installation process
>> could become a task of "pkg install", instead of "tar xf". And
>> a unification of the infrastructures could lead to additional
>> benefits (only _one_ system for both components - OS and ports).
> I am have many troubles with this way in Linux.
> Kernel and userland versions mismatch.
> glibc version incompatible with rpm.
> pkunzip.zip problem.
> And etc.
I *think* all they are planning is using the same 'pkg' system to
maintain *separate* repos of software, still system *separate* from user
pkg's, but I could be way off ....
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William A. Mahaffey III
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