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Date:      Thu, 20 Dec 2001 12:09:23 -0800 (PST)
From:      Jeremy Karlson <karlj000@unbc.ca>
To:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
Cc:        "Gary W. Swearingen" <swear@blarg.net>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: GPL nonsense: time to stop
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.21.0112201202000.29122-100000@ugrad.unbc.ca>
In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20011220065451.02653af0@localhost>

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> >Okay, "proprietary" is perhaps not a good word, but I still can't think of
> >a better one.
> Try "commercial." GPLed software cannot be commercial, because it
> cannot be the object of commerce. Yes, you can sell a disc with
> the software ON it for money, but you cannot license the software
> ITSELF for money. 

I don't think "commercial" does it either.  There can be commercially
created GPLed code - JFS, for example.  Again, it depends on your
interpretation of commercial.  I would consider it to be "commercially
created," where you seem to consider it as "an object of commerce."  Both,
I think, are correct.

> >What I was getting at is that even if Stallman were to
> >change the license on his "free software," users would always have the
> >ability to grab an older version and fork development at that point.  
> Yes, but then they would have to maintain a parallel version which
> there is no economic incentive to develop (because the current GPL
> already precludes any reward for doing so). 

You're right.  But the option always exists.  And if Stallman were to
change the terms of the GPL to something frightening, I'm sure it would
happen.  There would be developers willing to continue with both
licenses.  They would eventually become different species.  Sort of in the
same way that Free, Net and Open have forked and grew into different
projects, the same would happen to, say, GCC.

> McKusick's essay in that book is worth a read. Stallman and Perens'
> contributions are pure propaganda.

I'd like to take your opinion as one that matters, but the above sounds
like the statement of a person whose mind is set in one regard and rejects
all other opinions.  Stallman and Perens essays may be completely preachy,
and I don't doubt that, but I'm sure there is still something interesting
and worth reading in them.  What about the other contributors?  Something,
say, that isn't about the GPL and BSDL fight?

-- 

Jeremy

The difference between legal separation and divorce is that legal
separation gives the man time to hide his money.


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