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Date:      Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:28:14 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@whistle.com>
To:        Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>
Cc:        Brian Feldman <green@zone.syracuse.NET>, "Alex G. Bulushev" <bag@sinbin.demos.su>, Daniel Rock <rock@cs.uni-sb.de>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: -current NFS problem 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.95.981014102756.2872O-100000@current1.whistle.com>
In-Reply-To: <199810141604.JAA01077@dingo.cdrom.com>

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I thought kirk was doing that....


On Wed, 14 Oct 1998, Mike Smith wrote:

> > Perhaps this could be the problem with NFS "hanging" certain people all
> > the time? (not the pine thing) The system spending way too much time
> > inside the kernel transmitting NFS packets....
> 
> No.  Lack of ACCESS caching makes us slow and eats the network (because 
> we are very good at generating/sending/receiving them).
> 
> If there's someone out there that wants to work with the very best NFS 
> people in the business to sort out our problems, please let me know.  
> NetApp are keen to see our issues resolved (it will mean less angst 
> for them in the long run, as they have many FreeBSD-using customers).
> 
> Right now, we are accumulating a bad NFS reputation. 8(
> 
> > Brian Feldman
> > 
> > On Wed, 14 Oct 1998, Mike Smith wrote:
> > 
> > > > another known problem exist for nfsv3
> > > > 
> > > > we use www server working over nfs with about 1500000 hits/day
> > > > it work fine with nfsv2 (load 0.1 - 0.8), but with nfsv3
> > > > we see load > 130 and server replay is very slow ...
> > > > i think this is a bug in fbsd nfsv3 realization, the
> > > > same scheme with solaris/sparc nfsv3 client/server work
> > > > without this problems ...
> > > 
> > > The problem here is almost certainly that we don't cache the results of 
> > > ACCESS RPC calls.  There's an outstanding request from NetApp for us to 
> > > address this; their testing indicates that 80% or more of NFS traffic 
> > > generated by FreeBSD systems consists of ACCESS RPC calls.
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > \\  Sometimes you're ahead,       \\  Mike Smith
> > > \\  sometimes you're behind.      \\  mike@smith.net.au
> > > \\  The race is long, and in the  \\  msmith@freebsd.org
> > > \\  end it's only with yourself.  \\  msmith@cdrom.com
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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> > 
> 
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> \\  sometimes you're behind.      \\  mike@smith.net.au
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> \\  end it's only with yourself.  \\  msmith@cdrom.com
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