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Date:      Thu, 17 Jun 2010 12:17:51 +0100
From:      Chris Whitehouse <cwhiteh@onetel.com>
To:        Programmer in Training <pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: concerning flash under freebsd
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In-Reply-To: <20100617035140.x8bpf02348g4o8ok@mail.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us>
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Programmer in Training wrote:
> Quoting Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de>:
> 
>> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:49:56 -0600, Programmer in Training  
>> <pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> wrote:
>>> Almost all Internet video
>>> has moved to flash as well (such as all the sermons on sermons.net
>>> which my church uses).
>>
>> That's all within transition. Currently, big video portals are
>> moving to HTML5, often including the wish to also use free and
>> open standards for their videos so they can access a bigger
> 
> That's a no-go, I have it on good authority that h.264 was chosen over 
> Theora. That along with mpeg-la having put out a press release saying it 
> won't charge royalties for "free" uses of some of it's patents several 
> months ago[0], while I would love for Theora to have won out as the 
> standard, once again corporate interest (this time a big push from 
> Apple, from what I understand) has won out.

And Mozilla won't use H264. Also add into the mix that Google has just 
bought VP8 and open sourced it. Mozilla supports VP8 but Apple is 
already dissing it: 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/may/20/apple-steve-jobs-vp8-patent

So I think we have a very long way to go before we can stop using flash 
for web based video.

(According to wikipedia Theora is a fork of VP3 which the developer On2 
released some time ago. VP6 made into macromedia flash codec. So On2's 
codecs have a long history of video on the web.)

> won't support it. But that's all irregardless to the OPs question of 
> bugginess on FreeBSD. If the Linux emulation isn't enough and there is 
> no option but to switch to an entirely different platform, why even 
> provide such an option? Linux emulation takes up a lot of resources 
> (space wise on the drive).

Flash video works absolutely fine here and there is a lot of great 
content and interesting and entertaining material out there. I'm really 
grateful to the FreeBSD developers for getting it working so well :)

FreeBSD muji2.config 8.0-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p2 #0: Wed Mar 
24 11:51:43 GMT 2010     root@muji2.config:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC 
  i386
firefox-3.5.8,1
linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0r42
flashblock 1.5.13  # This may be a critical feature of a successful 
flash intallation.

Chris




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