Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 15:38:37 -0700 From: Kevin Oberman <kob6558@gmail.com> To: Damien Fleuriot <ml@my.gd> Cc: "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, Claus Guttesen <kometen@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD? Message-ID: <CAN6yY1vLFRqzXo720tSpEq=W9_gvABVOP8nvGGQ6BVJotxx6QQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4FC773AE.1030906@my.gd> References: <C480320C-0CD9-4B61-8AFB-37085C820AB7@FreeBSD.org> <4FC742BF.4080005@my.gd> <20120531102127.GV39168@e-new.0x20.net> <80C9CF39-B4B2-4F2E-BC30-138BB692C91A@my.gd> <CAAKtYMAREyxKXSU1LtDRWvjH8XnY-CQNfBRKmuXvNddT3GmXaw@mail.gmail.com> <4FC773AE.1030906@my.gd>
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On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Damien Fleuriot <ml@my.gd> wrote: > > > On 5/31/12 1:20 PM, Claus Guttesen wrote: >>>>> A regular debian update is 5 minutes + reboot >>>>> A regular FBSD update is about 1.5 hour + 3 reboots (after >>>>> installkernel, installworld, rebuild of ports) >>>> >>>> But how often do you need to >>> >>> As a matter of fact, too often, that's te problem. >>> >>> We have > 800 servers and I can't argue that debian's update process is much simpler and faster. >> >> Take a look at freebsd-update: >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html. >> This tracks release. >> > > As I just replied to an off-list mail, we can't use binary upgrades because: > > > 1/ we use custom kernels with a lot of the stuff stripped > > 2/ we pass custom options to ports, which excludes pre-compiled packages > > 3/ we don't track release, I'm trying to move our boxes away from it so > we can get faster patches, we track 8-STABLE on most boxes Make your own freebsd-update server and build whatever custom system you need. It does not need to be a GENERIC kernel. It does not need to be RELEASE.Then use freebsd-update to update all of your production systems with a single reboot and about 15 minutes (depending on system and disk speed and I have not actually timed it).and it can be done without console access or a single-user boot. Caveats: Systems must be updated from a version the server knows to a version the server knows; both kernel and world. Major version bumps may require re-installation of ports. Security ports and minor updates are trivial. Grenada? -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer E-mail: kob6558@gmail.com
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