Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:26:12 +0000 (GMT) From: Georg Reilinger <georgreilinger@yahoo.de> To: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD Message-ID: <1358522772.46124.YahooMailNeo@web133202.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20130118052438.ddc5b4dd.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <1358472303.40523.YahooMailNeo@web133203.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <20130118052438.ddc5b4dd.freebsd@edvax.de>
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-- Excuse me... you're joking, right? I assume you have a plentycore -- processor with Gigs of RAM, and already two shells show a problem? -- That sounds totally wrong. Is that sarcasm or irony? ________________________________ Von: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> An: Georg Reilinger <georgreilinger@yahoo.de> CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Gesendet: 5:24 Freitag, 18.Januar 2013 Betreff: Re: FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:25:03 +0000 (GMT), Georg Reilinger wrote: > As far as I know, FreeBSD has completely dropped support for KDE 3.5. As for other desktop environments, yes. > Whether it's the ports, or the pkg_add precompiled binaries. Am I right in > assuming this? I think KDE 3 is still in ports, but will be scheduled for removal, as KDE 4 is the place where development takes place, and there seems to be no active development on KDE 3 that can be built (!) on FreeBSD due to lack of contribution. > I am currently running a live version of FreeBSD 8.2 with KDE 4.8. May I ask which live system this is? > The thing > here is, that KDE 4 is simply too heavy for my system. For example: it is > impossible for me to have two open shells at the same time. Once I exit a > given shell, I can't open another one due to a lack of resources, even after having > turned off all the extra stuff - plasma desktop, nepomuk... Excuse me... you're joking, right? I assume you have a plentycore processor with Gigs of RAM, and already two shells show a problem? That sounds totally wrong. When you play a music file and move the window, do you get skipping audio, too? Just scary... > As a consequence, I can see myself do two possible things, to have a system > running with KDE 3.5 once again: > > 1. Go back to an older release of FreeBSD and install KDE 3.5 from the > precompiled binaries that are on the DVD donwload version. > Judging by the release announcements, this should be 7.1. Yes, this will work. But note that you are running an OS that has been gone out of support, so you probably won't be able to install "newer" software using ports or packages. However, you can use the system "as is", and even use ports as long as the distfiles are still kept available online. > 2. To be honest, I am quite happy with 8.2 and I would like to keep it for > some time to come. In other words, is there a way to keep 8.2 and still > have KDE 3.5 along with it? For example has anyone ever tried to > install a 7.1 pre-built package (KDE 3.5 in this case) on an 8.2 system? > Is that be possible? That should be possible if you install the required compat7x port on the system. Keep an eye on dependencies and make sure you won't be shooting your feet. A good start would be to install the KDE stuff on a "clean" system (right after compat7x) so there won't be much confusion. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 15:37:57 2013 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8831AE for <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:37:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net) Received: from smtp-out04.alice-dsl.net (smtp-out04.alice-dsl.net [88.44.63.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508AFD2 for <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:37:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out.alice-dsl.de ([192.168.125.61]) by smtp-out04.alice-dsl.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:37:55 +0100 Received: from freebsd ([92.224.209.164]) by out.alice-dsl.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:37:43 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "FreeBSD quest" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Dependencies after port tree update References: <op.wq3bi4ikqhadp0@freebsd> <20130118055051.3dd2a12a.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:37:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" <ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net> Message-ID: <op.wq35o5ujqhadp0@freebsd> In-Reply-To: <20130118055051.3dd2a12a.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.61 (FreeBSD) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2013 15:37:43.0719 (UTC) FILETIME=[C1FBF370:01CDF591] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions <freebsd-questions.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions>, <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions>; List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions>, <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:37:57 -0000 On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 05:50:51 +0100, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote: > "man portmaster" root@freebsd:/root # portmaster --list-origins > ~/installed-port-list root@freebsd:/root # portsnap fetch update root@freebsd:/root # portmaster -ty --clean-distfiles root@freebsd:/root # portmaster --check-port-dbdir delete? always y root@freebsd:/root # portmaster -Faf root@freebsd:/root # pkg_delete -a root@freebsd:/root # rm -rf /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg No backup of files in /usr/local, such as configuration files in /usr/local/etc needed. Do the following directories have to be "more" empty? root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/bin total 0 root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/sbin total 0 root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/lib total 12 drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512B Jan 18 16:17 X11 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 2.2k Jan 14 19:30 charset.alias drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 3.0k Jan 18 16:19 compat drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 1.0k Jan 18 16:10 dssi root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/lib/dssi total 0 root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/lib/compat total 0 root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/lib/X11 total 4 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512B Jan 18 16:14 app-defaults drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512B Jan 18 16:14 fonts root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /var/db/pkg total 9424 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 9.2M Dec 23 22:42 pkgdb.db root@freebsd:/root # cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portmaster && make deinstall install clean root@freebsd:/usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portmaster # portmaster `cat ~/installed-port-list` I wonder how to set a variable to automatically "answer" ok. In this case it might be interesting to check all configurations. If I finished this step, will then automatically everything be recompiled and reinstalled? Regards, Ralf -- FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE amd64
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