Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:26:12 +0000 (GMT) From: Georg Reilinger <georgreilinger@yahoo.de> To: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD Message-ID: <1358522772.46124.YahooMailNeo@web133202.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20130118052438.ddc5b4dd.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <1358472303.40523.YahooMailNeo@web133203.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <20130118052438.ddc5b4dd.freebsd@edvax.de>
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-- Excuse me... you're joking, right? I assume you have a plentycore=0A-- p= rocessor with Gigs of RAM, and already two shells show a problem?=0A-- That= sounds totally wrong.=0A=0AIs that sarcasm or irony?=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_______= _________________________=0A Von: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de>=0AAn: Georg= Reilinger <georgreilinger@yahoo.de> =0ACC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org"= <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> =0AGesendet: 5:24 Freitag, 18.Januar 2013= =0ABetreff: Re: FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1= DVD=0A =0AOn Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:25:03 +0000 (GMT), Georg Reilinger wrote:= =0A> As far as I know, FreeBSD has completely dropped support for KDE 3.5. = =0A=0AAs for other desktop environments, yes.=0A=0A=0A=0A> Whether it's the= ports, or the pkg_add precompiled binaries. Am I right in =0A> assuming th= is?=0A=0AI think KDE 3 is still in ports, but will be scheduled for removal= ,=0Aas KDE 4 is the place where development takes place, and there seems=0A= to be no active development on KDE 3 that can be built (!) on FreeBSD=0Adue= to lack of contribution.=0A=0A=0A=0A> I am currently running a live versio= n of FreeBSD 8.2 with KDE 4.8.=0A=0AMay I ask which live system this is?=0A= =0A=0A=0A> The thing =0A> here is, that KDE 4 is simply too heavy for my sy= stem. For example: it is =0A> impossible for me to have two open shells at = the same time. Once I exit a =0A> given shell, I can't open another one due= to a lack of resources, even after having =0A> turned off all the extra st= uff - plasma desktop, nepomuk...=0A=0AExcuse me... you're joking, right? I = assume you have a plentycore=0Aprocessor with Gigs of RAM, and already two = shells show a problem?=0AThat sounds totally wrong.=0A=0AWhen you play a mu= sic file and move the window, do you get skipping=0Aaudio, too?=0A=0AJust s= cary...=0A=0A=0A=0A> As a consequence, I can see myself do two possible thi= ngs, to have a system =0A> running with KDE 3.5 once again:=0A> =0A> 1. Go = back to an older release of FreeBSD and install KDE 3.5 from the =0A> preco= mpiled binaries that are on the DVD donwload version.=0A> Judging by the re= lease announcements, this should be 7.1.=0A=0AYes, this will work. But note= that you are running an OS that=0Ahas been gone out of support, so you pro= bably won't be able=0Ato install "newer" software using ports or packages. = However,=0Ayou can use the system "as is", and even use ports as long =0Aas= the distfiles are still kept available online.=0A=0A=0A=0A> 2. To be hones= t, I am quite happy with 8.2 and I would like to keep it for =0A> some time= to come. In other words, is there a way to keep 8.2 and still =0A> have KD= E 3.5 along with it? For example has anyone ever tried to =0A> install a 7.= 1 pre-built package (KDE 3.5 in this case) on an 8.2 system? =0A> Is that b= e possible?=0A=0AThat should be possible if you install the required compat= 7x=0Aport on the system. Keep an eye on dependencies and make sure=0Ayou wo= n't be shooting your feet. A good start would be to=0Ainstall the KDE stuff= on a "clean" system (right after compat7x)=0Aso there won't be much confus= ion.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A-- =0APolytropon=0AMagdeburg, Germany=0AHappy FreeBSD us= er since 4.0=0AAndra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...=0A_____________________________= __________________=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://li= sts.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send a= ny mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 15:37:57 2013 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8831AE for <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:37:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net) Received: from smtp-out04.alice-dsl.net (smtp-out04.alice-dsl.net [88.44.63.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508AFD2 for <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:37:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out.alice-dsl.de ([192.168.125.61]) by smtp-out04.alice-dsl.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:37:55 +0100 Received: from freebsd ([92.224.209.164]) by out.alice-dsl.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:37:43 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "FreeBSD quest" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Dependencies after port tree update References: <op.wq3bi4ikqhadp0@freebsd> <20130118055051.3dd2a12a.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:37:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" <ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net> Message-ID: <op.wq35o5ujqhadp0@freebsd> In-Reply-To: <20130118055051.3dd2a12a.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.61 (FreeBSD) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2013 15:37:43.0719 (UTC) FILETIME=[C1FBF370:01CDF591] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions <freebsd-questions.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions>, <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions>; List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions>, <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:37:57 -0000 On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 05:50:51 +0100, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote: > "man portmaster" root@freebsd:/root # portmaster --list-origins > ~/installed-port-list root@freebsd:/root # portsnap fetch update root@freebsd:/root # portmaster -ty --clean-distfiles root@freebsd:/root # portmaster --check-port-dbdir delete? always y root@freebsd:/root # portmaster -Faf root@freebsd:/root # pkg_delete -a root@freebsd:/root # rm -rf /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg No backup of files in /usr/local, such as configuration files in /usr/local/etc needed. Do the following directories have to be "more" empty? root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/bin total 0 root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/sbin total 0 root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/lib total 12 drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512B Jan 18 16:17 X11 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 2.2k Jan 14 19:30 charset.alias drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 3.0k Jan 18 16:19 compat drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 1.0k Jan 18 16:10 dssi root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/lib/dssi total 0 root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/lib/compat total 0 root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/lib/X11 total 4 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512B Jan 18 16:14 app-defaults drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512B Jan 18 16:14 fonts root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /var/db/pkg total 9424 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 9.2M Dec 23 22:42 pkgdb.db root@freebsd:/root # cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portmaster && make deinstall install clean root@freebsd:/usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portmaster # portmaster `cat ~/installed-port-list` I wonder how to set a variable to automatically "answer" ok. In this case it might be interesting to check all configurations. If I finished this step, will then automatically everything be recompiled and reinstalled? Regards, Ralf -- FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE amd64
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