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Date:      Thu, 17 Nov 2005 14:06:03 +0000
From:      Brian Candler <B.Candler@pobox.com>
To:        Peter Clutton <peterclutton@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, "mike@lanline.com" <mike@lanline.com>
Subject:   Re: Backup solutions
Message-ID:  <20051117140603.GA7941@uk.tiscali.com>
In-Reply-To: <57416b300511162006m4cfe53f8n6dc2bccb877a5567@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Nov 17, 2005 at 03:06:11PM +1100, Peter Clutton wrote:
> FWIW, i have read that by far the best is dump, because of the way it
> deals with the raw data. No need to worry bout files with holes in
> them (with other backup tools, this could mean you may not be able to
> fit the file system back on after backup, if there are core files etc)
> I believe i read this in the O'Rielly text Unix Power Tools, but could
> be wrong. They also referenced an extensive test that was done by
> someone, and gave the link. I will post it if i find it.

You may mean the Zwicky "Torture Testing" paper:
http://grox.net/doc/zwicky/testsuite/torture.pdf

My 2 cents: don't judge a backup system by how easy it is to make backups.
You should judge it by how easy and reliable it is to *restore* a complete
and working image. That's harder than it sounds. If you're rsync'ing or
tar'ing: how confident are you that you can quickly build an identical clone
machine, with correct chflags() information, and with working boot blocks?

Aside: I'd quite like to see a backup system which uses dump/restore, but
also uses a crytographic hash of each file so you don't end up storing 100
copies of the same system files when backing up 100 machines. Anybody know
of such a beast?

Regards,

Brian.



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