Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 10:35:47 -0700 (MST) From: Nick Rogness <nick@rogness.net> To: Ryan Sommers <ryans@gamersimpact.com> Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is FreeBSD going? Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0401081023140.16396-100000@skywalker.rogness.net> In-Reply-To: <1073533525.650.59.camel@localhost>
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On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Ryan Sommers wrote: > On Wed, 2004-01-07 at 20:29, Nick Rogness wrote: > > 1) Allow for paid development for a specific bug/feature > > > > - Setup some program that allows users like myself to pay for a > > developers time to fix a specific bug. The company I work for > > would easily pay serious dollars to fix our SMP problems with 4.X. > > Unfortunetly, getting someone's attention that has a great > > understanding of the OS is hard to find without rude remarks and > > what-not. > > > > You could even extend it as far as saying we will promote this PR > > to the top of the list of tasks if you pay us XX dollars. Or > > maybe, the more you pay the higher you go. > > > > This would reassure the user base that things CAN get done if > > needed and also let the developer/bug fixer feel like they can > > make money and have some fun. It will also bring in money for the > > project as part of that money could go back into the Project. > > > > You could easily setup a "pool" mailling list (like -requests) > > which someone like myself would email a request with the problem > > description (or PR). If a developer is interested in tackling the > > problem for money, we could privately negotiate a price. > > > > The same can be done for driver development and others. Make it a > > "Donation for a specific request". I don't want to give money to > > some Foundation where money can be thrown around in the wrong > > areas. I want to pay the developer personally for their efforts. > > ( I feel the same should be done with our taxes as well ;-) > > > > I really don't like the idea of making this a "policy," or even some > official part of the project. I think this might discourage some from > contributing in hopes to be paid for it. I think a better solution for > companies looking for this would be to post to the jobs@ mailing list > noting that it is a temp job. The point was not to take away from contributing developers only to pay someone who is familiar with the problem. I don't want to have to hire someone that doesn't have a clue on the problem and takes 6 months to even become familiar with a specific PR. I don't see anything wrong with paying someone who is working on my PR. Even it is a small amount. I'm not a company and can't afford to hire a programmer to develop a driver for me personally. However, if someone is working on a driver already and is time contstrained, I would pay some money to help relieve some of the time stress involved. I gave suggestions for keeping developers happy and efficient. Money is the only REAL answer. Perhaps this could be done through a company that contracts just FreeBSD developers. I know of no such company. I guess I will have to be satisfied with -jobs for now. > > I don't think giving priority to paying entities is a path the project > should tread down. If someone needs FreeBSD developer work they should > look for someone to hire. Something like this might also jeopardize the > project's "not for profit" status. I think the jobs@ mailing list would > be a better start. (I'm going to be looking for a full time job in about > 11 months and if I got one where I got to code/administer BSD I'd feel I > was in Heaven.) :-) Agreed. -- Nick Rogness <nick@rogness.net> - How many people here have telekenetic powers? Raise my hand. -Emo Philips
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