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Date:      Mon, 24 Oct 2022 17:34:58 +0200
From:      Kristof Provost <kp@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Shawn Webb <shawn.webb@hardenedbsd.org>
Cc:        src-committers@FreeBSD.org, dev-commits-src-all@FreeBSD.org, dev-commits-src-main@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: git: 22893e584032 - main - bridge: default to not filtering L3
Message-ID:  <E4F14C56-7283-40FF-BE91-F844BADF3787@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <20221024152758.ofwhfcdfdslm5cbs@mutt-hbsd>
References:  <202210240853.29O8rDHe091720@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <20221024152758.ofwhfcdfdslm5cbs@mutt-hbsd>

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On 24 Oct 2022, at 17:27, Shawn Webb wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 08:53:13AM +0000, Kristof Provost wrote:
>> The branch main has been updated by kp:
>>
>> URL: https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=3D22893e584032f22f24cae8e=
8b1b77ea70e83bd69
>>
>> commit 22893e584032f22f24cae8e8b1b77ea70e83bd69
>> Author:     Kristof Provost <kp@FreeBSD.org>
>> AuthorDate: 2022-10-14 05:57:33 +0000
>> Commit:     Kristof Provost <kp@FreeBSD.org>
>> CommitDate: 2022-10-24 06:52:21 +0000
>>
>>     bridge: default to not filtering L3
>>
>>     Change the default for net.link.bridge.pfil_member and
>>     net.link.bridge.pfil_bridge to zero.
>>
>>     That is, default to not calling layer 3 firewalls on the bridge or=
 its
>>     member interfaces.
>>
>>     With either of these enabled the bridge will, during L2 processing=
,
>>     remove the Ethernet header from packets, feed them to L3 firewalls=
,
>>     re-add the Ethernet header and send them out.
>>
>>     Not only does this interact very poorly with firewalls which defer=

>>     packets, or reassemble and refragment IPv6, it also causes conside=
rable
>>     confusion for users, because the firewall gets called in unexpecte=
d
>>     ways.
>>
>>     For example, a bridge which contains a bhyve tap and the host's LA=
N
>>     interface. We'd expect traffic between the LAN and bhyve VM to pas=
s, no
>>     matter what (layer 3) firewall rules are set on the host. That's n=
ot the
>>     case as long as pfil_bridge or pfil_member are set.
>>
>>     Reviewed by:    Zhenlei Huang
>>     MFC:            never
>>     Differential Revision:  https://reviews.freebsd.org/D37009
>
> Hey Kristof,
>
> Would this be a good candidate for RELNOTES?
>
=E2=80=9CMaybe=E2=80=9D. I struggle to explain it in a way that does not =
have an undertone of (or outright says) =E2=80=9COur users don=E2=80=99t =
actually know what this does. Remove the foot-gun.=E2=80=9D

Kristof



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