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Date:      Tue, 2 Mar 2004 11:04:02 +1030
From:      Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Vulpes Velox <kitbsdlists@HotPOP.com>
Cc:        Jonathon McKitrick <jcm@FreeBSD-uk.eu.org>
Subject:   Re: Daemon's Advocate article
Message-ID:  <20040302003402.GJ71140@wantadilla.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <20040301151906.34565604@vixen42.>
References:  <20040229222159.GA47191@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <200403011109.33238.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> <20040301151906.34565604@vixen42.>

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On Monday,  1 March 2004 at 15:19:06 -0600, Vulpes Velox wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 11:09:33 -0800
> Johnson David <DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sunday 29 February 2004 02:21 pm, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
>>> http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200402/dadvocate.html
>>>
>>> I found the article very interesting.
>>>
>>> What do you all think?  What is being done to keep BSD from ending
>>> up where Greg says it might be going - suitable only for
>>> developers?
>>
>> What is being done? Nothing. I get the impression that no one "in
>> charge" is the slightest bit concerned about the FreeBSD user. This
>> is most notable on the desktop side, but it extends to any user.
>> There's this attitude that if you want something in FreeBSD, you
>> must do it yourself.
>
> :/  The big problem is there is needed a desktop distro... and a good
> gtk+ front end to the ports, rc.conf, and sysctl.
>
> /me will begin work on this probally when he has time, but has been
> meaning to get around to it for awhile but has had massive time
> problems...

You might like to look at the instant-workstation port.  That was an
attempt I made a couple of years ago to sort out this situation.

Greg
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