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Date:      Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:17:17 +0100
From:      Nils Holland <nils@tisys.org>
To:        Gavin Atkinson <gavin@ury.york.ac.uk>
Cc:        stable@FreeBSD.ORG, qa@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: 4.5-PRE panic in vfs_cache with softupdates, via chipset
Message-ID:  <20020110001717.A92381@tisys.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.33.0201092138440.89714-400000@ury.york.ac.uk>; from gavin@ury.york.ac.uk on Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 10:03:09PM %2B0000
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.33.0201092138440.89714-400000@ury.york.ac.uk>

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On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 10:03:09PM +0000, Gavin Atkinson stood up and spoke:
> 
> I was running buildworld, with /usr/src and /usr/obj on seperate
> partitions, both with softupdates on. I have the problematic VIA
> southbridge. I was building world, then suspended it (ctrl-z) before
> suspending the laptop with 'apm -z'. Later, woke it up, and about 20
> seconds later resumed the build. Two or three more files were compiled
> before the kernel panic occured.

Welcome to the club ;-)

Now, I'm no kernel expert either, but I wonder if you can reproduce your
problem. If it's similar to mine, you should be able exactly what you did
when the panic occured, and in about two out of three cases the problem
should be there again.

*Sigh*, Soren's fix has made my machine noticably more stable, what I
really appreciate! However, there seem to be some issues that have not yet
been sorted out, and the fact that these issues are there can only be
blamed to VIA and the motherboard manufacturers (BIOS programmers).

From what I can say, people who use their 686B machines for "normal"
desktop work will probably never face this problem, even without any
patching at all. On the other hand, people who are into (demanding)
networking, compiling or file-copying will almost surely face this problem
at some point in time, at least if their system is in the same state as
Gavin's and mine is.

If I had more money on my bank account right now, I'd probably simply
replace my mainboard with an unaffected one (either no VIA chipset or one
of the latest VIA things) and send my current one to Soren for further
investigation. I guess that if he'd see how strange it performs, he'd throw
it out of the window after a short period of time, and that's what I almost
did for about 20 times so far ;-)

Greetings
Nils

Greetings
Nils


-- 
Nils Holland
Ti Systems - FreeBSD in Tiddische, Germany
http://www.tisys.org * nils@tisys.org

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