Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 01:54:05 -0800 From: "Garrett Cooper" <yanefbsd@gmail.com> To: "Joe Kelsey" <joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us> Cc: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>, "Conrad J. Sabatier" <conrads@cox.net>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i give up Message-ID: <7d6fde3d0812040154g30fc2c2egf82f5fc2dd1d9e83@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4936D0C2.2090306@zircon.seattle.wa.us> References: <20081128234155.0221e263@serene.no-ip.org> <4930D7CE.4080909@psg.com> <20081202220643.72eb52a3@serene.no-ip.org> <4936D0C2.2090306@zircon.seattle.wa.us>
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On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Joe Kelsey <joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us> wrote: > Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: >> >> On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 14:49:02 +0900 >> Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> what a tragic story. and zero technical info, like even what your >>> controller is. best of luck in penguin land. bye! >>> >>> randy >>> >> >> No, actually, I forwarded to Soren all the information I could glean >> from Windows Vista, Linux and FreeBSD (which I managed to install on an >> external USB drive). I also applied the patches he sent me, which >> failed to cure the problem, and have been monitoring the mailing lists >> and CVS repo for any signs of progress, but so far I've seen nothing. >> > > The first step in upgrading a FreeBSD system is to NEVER purchase ANYTHING > with an nVidia logo anywhere near it. nVidia purposelessly witholds > programming information form free developers, so there is virtually no > chance for being able to make anything with nVidia work at any time. > > Second, DO NOT use motherboards with built-in video. These are almost > always nvidia chipsets and suffer from the nvidia problem. Also, the video > is crappy and buggy. > > Several people have mentioned reliable internet shops to order proven > hardware from. Whenever you walk into a "local" computer store, you get no > expertise in anything non-windoze. Go somewhere where you can use a > magnifying glass to examine the chips and actually determine whether or not > you are likely to suffer the nvidia disaster. Write down the motherboard > information and ask on the mailing lists. I had a horrid problem with > crappy SATA chips on my motherboard, and I had to buy two different SATA PCI > cards before I got one that worked. > > Trade in the defective motherboard to get a new one that works. Think > before you ever try to buy anything with nVidia logos on it, unless you are > willing to run Linux crap. > > Good luck in the future. > > /Joe Disclaimer: the above assumptions only apply (for the most part) to motherboards with nVidia chipsets. Read the specs, do your homework, and 9/10 Intel chipsets with onboard video will have Intel graphics chipsets and AMD motherboard chipsets will come with ATI onboard chipsets (surprise, surprise). -Garrett
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