Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 18:38:54 -0400 From: "Mark S. Reichman" <reichman@twcny.rr.com> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "The Matrix" screensaver, v.0.2 Message-ID: <37C864FE.BD2DDB0E@twcny.rr.com> References: <4520.935745765@critter.freebsd.dk> <37C8647E.DA8231B6@twcny.rr.com>
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"Mark S. Reichman" wrote:
>
> Another reason less lawsuits of this type are tried in Europe
> is because the loser pays all court costs.
> In the US a person will name everyone and anyone
> remotely associated with the supposed wrong doing in hopes of a
> big payoff. Each person must then hire a lawyer and defend
> themselves against the compaint. In the states if you do
> this and lose the court
> case then usally no big deal. You are out your own attorney fees.
> In europe if you lose you must pay everyones legal fees..
> This is known as "loser pays". This
> tends to lessen the number of frivilous court cases, named
> litigants, and lowers the burden on the european legal system.
> Am I a lawyer? NO. I only saw a documentary on TV about this.
> So take it for what its worth.
>
> Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> >
> > In message <8062.935743977@localhost>, "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes:
> > >> > I seriously doubt they'll win this lawsuit. You can sue someone for
> > >> > anything and everything, including having a hair color which
> > >>
> > >> ^ in the States
> > >
> > >Sorry, I've lived in Europe, you can't pull that one on me. :)
> > >
> > >In Germany, for example, it's possible to sue someone simply for
> > >sticking their finger against their forehead. The myth that only the
> > >U.S. is litigious is just that, a myth. Europeans sue the crap out of
> > >one another all the time, and for issues just as silly. :)
> >
> > Jordan, I've lived in the US, Luxembourg, Italy and Denmark.
> >
> > While it is true that anyone can sue anybody else for anything they
> > feel like all over the planet, the likely (lack of) outcome in
> > europe makes it far less likely that they will do so in the first
> > place.
> >
> > The main difference as far as I can tell, is that European courts
> > apply some kind of "common sense" criteria before they award huge
> > compensations to people who burn themselves on coffee, cut their
> > fingers off with chain saws and so on: "Should this person not
> > be realizing that coffee could be hot ? She has been drinking
> > coffee for the last 50+ years ?" "If you use a chainsaw, shouldn't
> > you be smart enough to realize that you cannot stop the chain
> > with your hand ?" etc etc.
> >
> > The secondary difference is that in all the countries I know,
> > they lawyer has to state his fee before the verdict, and it
> > may not depend on the outcome of the verdict.
> >
> > The third difference is that we only use jurys in murder cases,
> > we fully realize the ability of a showman-laywer to sway a jury,
> > therefore we don't use them, unless the issue is the gravest
> > crime we know off.
> >
> > Fourth, "puntative damages" fall to the state over here, so the
> > potential for getting rich that way is simply not present.
> >
> > So while you're technically correct reality looks far different.
> >
> > --
> > Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member
> > phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop."
> > FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far!
> >
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