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Date:      Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:07:20 +0300
From:      Odhiambo Washington <vedette@iconnect.co.ke>
To:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: LPRng: Printing to Samba 2.0.7 from Windows 2000
Message-ID:  <20000815160720.B27212@siafu.iconnect.co.ke>
In-Reply-To: <200008112213.PAA19637@h4.private>; from papowell@astart.com on Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 03:13:58PM -0700
References:  <200008112213.PAA19637@h4.private>

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I need help VERY URGENTLY with Samba 
I already have an HP Deskjet to which I can print. However, I'd like to
share it with other PCs on the Network, mainly Win98 PCs. 
There is already another UNIX box running Samba but without any printer on
it, meaning my wks is the second UNIX box. I thought this might be of
interest to whoever would like to come to my aid.

1.Will I have a problem with TWO Samba Servers on the same network?

My assumption is that as long as I use a different workgroup name it will
be okay. Please advice.

Now my dielmna. I cannot access this server from Network neighborhood
(know PC environment??) I get the message:

\\alouette is not accessible.
The specified computer did not receive your request!!

But I can attach to this computer from another UNIX box, amazing....

Wash


Thus spake papowell@astart.com (papowell@astart.com):

> > From lprng@astart2.astart.com Fri Aug 11 14:51:22 2000
> > Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:38:04 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: John Johnson <ioann_j@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: LPRng: Printing to Samba 2.0.7 from Windows 2000
> > To: lprng@lprng.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, samba@samba.org
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've recently installed LPRng 3.6.22, ifhp 3.3.19, and
> > Samba 2.0.7 on my FreeBSD 4.1 system. Printing works
> > fine from the FreeBSD machine, and I am able to access
> > shares via my Win2000 machine. I've configured a
> > [printers] section in smb.conf, and I am able to see
> > the LaserJet 2100 when browsing, but on installing it
> > I am unable to print to it. I get en error connecting
> > the printer message, nothing else.
> >
> > Can anyone steer me in the right direction? Copied
> > below are my smb.conf and printcap settings. I've not
> > inlcluded ifhp.conf, lpd.conf or lpd.perms as these
> > are stock and have not been modified.
> >
> > Please Reply to All, as I've not been receiving e-mail
> > from Samba or LPRng of late.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > John
> >
> 
> Amazing.  The folks are telephathic.  Here is the revised
> Samba samba/docs/textdocs/Printing.txt document that I just
> finished this morning.
> 
> Patrick Powell                 Astart Technologies,
> papowell@astart.com            9475 Chesapeake Drive, Suite D,
> Network and System             San Diego, CA 92123
>   Consulting                   858-874-6543 FAX 858-279-8424 
> LPRng - Print Spooler (http://www.astart.com)
> 
> 
> !==
> !== Printing.txt for Samba release 2.0.4 18 May 1999
> !==
> Contributor:	Unknown <samba-bugs@samba.org>
> Date:		Unknown
> Status:		Current
> 
> Subject:	Dubugging Printing Problems
> =============================================================================
> 
> This is a short description of how to debug printing problems with
> Samba. This describes how to debug problems with printing from a SMB
> client to a Samba server, not the other way around. For the reverse
> see the examples/printing directory.
> 
> Please send enhancements to this file to samba-bugs@samba.org
> 
> Ok, so you want to print to a Samba server from your PC. The first
> thing you need to understand is that Samba does not actually do any
> printing itself, it just acts as a middleman between your PC client
> and your Unix printing subsystem. Samba receives the file from the PC
> then passes the file to a external "print command". What print command
> you use is up to you.
> 
> The whole things is controlled using options in smb.conf. The most
> relevant options (which you should look up in the smb.conf man page)
> are:
>       [global]
>         print command     - send a file to a spooler
>         lpq command       - get spool queue status
>         lprm command      - remove a job
>       [printers]
>         path = /var/spool/lpd/samba
> 
> The following are nice to know about:
> 
>         queuepause command   - stop a printer or print queue
>         queueresume command  - start a printer or print queue
> 
> Example:
>         print command = /usr/bin/lpr -r -P%p %s
>         lpq command   = /usr/bin/lpq    -P%p %s
>         lprm command  = /usr/bin/lprm   -P%p %j
>         queuepause command = /usr/sbin/lpc -P%p stop
>         queuepause command = /usr/sbin/lpc -P%p start
> 
> Samba should set reasonable defaults for these depending on your
> system type, but it isn't clairvoyant. It is not uncommon that you
> have to tweak these for local conditions.  The commands should
> always have fully specified pathnames,  as the smdb may not have
> the correct PATH values.
> 
> When you send a job to Samba to be printed,  it will make a temporary
> copy of it in the directory specified in the [printers] section.
> and it should be periodically cleaned out.  The lpr -r option
> requests that the temporary copy be removed after printing; If
> printing fails then you might find leftover files in this directory,
> and it should be periodically cleaned out.  Samba used the lpq
> command to determine the "job number" assigned to your print job
> by the spooler.
> 
> The %<letter> are "macros" that get dynamically replaced with appropriate
> values when they are used. The %s gets replaced with the name of the spool
> file that Samba creates and the %p gets replaced with the name of the
> printer. The %j gets replaced with the "job number" which comes from
> the lpq output.
> 
> DEBUGGING PRINTER PROBLEMS
> 
> One way to debug printing problems is to start by replacing these
> command with shell scripts that record the arguments and the contents
> of the print file. A simple example of this kind of things might
> be:
> 
> 	print command = /tmp/saveprint %p %s
> 
>     #!/bin/saveprint
>     # we make sure that we are the right user
>     /usr/bin/id -p >/tmp/tmp.print
>     # we run the command and save the error messages
>     # replace the command with the one appropriate for your system
>     /usr/bin/lpr -r -P$1 $2 2>>&/tmp/tmp.print
> 
> Then you print a file:
> 
>     echo "print /tmp/test" |
>         smbclient //server/pr password -Uuser
> 
> You can observe the command output and then and look at the
> /tmp/tmp.print file to see what the results are.  You can quickly
> find out if the problem is with your printing system.  Often people
> have problems with their /etc/printcap file or permissions on
> various print queues.
> 
> WHAT PRINTERS DO I HAVE
> 
> You can use the 'testprns' program to check to see if the printer
> name you are using is recognized by Samba.  For example,  you can
> use:
> 
>     testprns printer /etc/printcap
> 
> Samba can get its printcap information from a file or from a program.
> You can try the following to see the format of the extracted
> information:
> 
>     testprns -a printer /etc/printcap
> 
>     testprns -a printer '|/bin/cat printcap'
> 
> SETTING UP PRINTCAP AND PRINT SERVERS
> 
> You may need to set up some printcaps for your Samba system to use.
> It is strongly recommended that you use the facilities provided by
> the print spooler to set up queues and printcap information.
> 
> Samba requires either a printcap or program to deliver printcap
> information.  This printcap information has the format:
> 
>   name|alias1|alias2...:option=value:...
> 
> For almost all printing systems, the printer 'name' must be composed
> only of alphanumeric or underscore '_' characters.  Some systems also
> allow hyphens ('-') as well.  An alias is an alternative name for the
> printer,  and an alias with a space in it is used as a 'comment'
> about the printer.  The printcap format optionally uses a \ at the end of lines
> to extend the printcap to multiple lines.
> 
> 
> Here are some examples of printcap files:
> 
> pr              just printer name
> pr|alias        printer name and alias
> pr|My Printer   printer name, alias used as comment
> pr:sh:\        Same as pr:sh:cm= testing
>   :cm= \ 
>   testing
> pr:sh           Same as pr:sh:cm= testing
>   :cm= testing
> 
> Samba reads the printcap information when first started.  If you make
> changes in the printcap information, then you must do the following:
> 
> a)  make sure that the print spooler is aware of these changes.
>     The LPRng system uses the 'lpc reread' command to do this.
> 
> b)  make sure that the spool queues, etc., exist and have the
>     correct permissions.  The LPRng system uses the 'checkpc -f'
>     command to do this.
> 
> c)  You now should send a SIGHUP signal to the smbd server to have
>     it reread the printcap information.
> 
> JOB SENT, NO OUTPUT
> 
> This is the most frustrating part of printing.  You may have sent the
> job,  verified that the job was forwarded,  set up a wrapper around
> the command to send the file,  but there was no output from the printer.
> 
> First,  check to make sure that the job REALLY is getting to the
> right print queue.  If you are using a BSD or LPRng print spooler,
> you can temporarily stop the printing of jobs.  Jobs can still be
> submitted, but they will not be printed.  Use:
> 
>   lpc -Pprinter stop
> 
> Now submit a print job and then use 'lpq -Pprinter' to see if the
> job is in the print queue.  If it is not in the print queue then
> you will have to find out why it is not being accepted for printing.
> 
> Next, you may want to check to see what the format of the job really
> was.  With the assistance of the system administrator you can view
> the submitted jobs files.  You may be surprised to find that these
> are not in what you would expect to call a printable format.
> You can use the UNIX 'file' utitily to determine what the job
> format actually is:
> 
>     cd /var/spool/lpd/printer   # spool directory of print jobs
>     ls                          # find job files
>     file dfA001myhost
> 
> You should make sure that your printer supports this format OR that
> your system administrator has installed a 'print filter' that will
> convert the file to a format appropriate for your printer.
> 
> JOB SENT, STRANGE OUTPUT
> 
> Once you have the job printing, you can then start worrying about
> making it print nicely.
> 
> The most common problem is extra pages of output: banner pages
> OR blank pages at the end.
> 
> If you are getting banner pages,  check and make sure that the
> printcap option or printer option is configured for no banners.
> If you have a printcap,  this is the :sh (suppress header or banner
> page) option.  You should have the following in your printer.
> 
>    printer: ... :sh
> 
> If you have this option and are still getting banner pages,  there
> is a strong chance that your printer is generating them for you
> automatically.  You should make sure that banner printing is disabled
> for the printer.  This usually requires using the printer setup software
> or procedures supplied by the printer manufacturer.
> 
> If you get an extra page of output,  this could be due to problems
> with your job format,  or if you are generating PostScript jobs,
> incorrect setting on your printer driver on the MicroSoft client.
> For example, under Win95 there is a option:
> 
>   Printers|Printer Name|(Right Click)Properties|Postscript|Advanced|
> 
> that allows you to choose if a Ctrl-D is appended to all jobs.
> This is a very bad thing to do, as most spooling systems will
> automatically add a ^D to the end of the job if it is detected as
> PostScript.  The multiple ^D may cause an additional page of output.
> 
> RAW POSTSCRIPT PRINTED
> 
> This is a problem that is usually caused by either the print spooling
> system putting information at the start of the print job that makes
> the printer think the job is a text file, or your printer simply
> does not support PostScript.  You may need to enable 'Automatic
> Format Detection' on your printer.
> 
> ADVANCED PRINTING
> 
> Note that you can do some pretty magic things by using your
> imagination with the "print command" option and some shell scripts.
> Doing print accounting is easy by passing the %U option to a print
> command shell script. You could even make the print command detect
> the type of output and its size and send it to an appropriate
> printer.
> 
> DEBUGGING
> 
> If the above debug tips don't help, then maybe you need to bring in
> the bug guns, system tracing. See Tracing.txt in this directory.
> 
> 
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