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Date:      Sun, 7 Jan 2018 10:05:26 -0800
From:      Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com>
To:        Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz>
Cc:        Michael Grimm <trashcan@ellael.org>, FreeBSD Ports ML <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: 'pkg upgrade -f spamassassin' stops but doesn't restart spamd
Message-ID:  <CAN6yY1vExnreT2mJ1cEKALZGwV4emS4fanSiEB_v4e5-BPU0tA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 7:10 AM, Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> wrote:

>
> There are no consensus about what services should do on deinstall or
> upgrade. That's why there is such a mess in ports / packages.
> Some did nothing (my preferred way), some stop (but did not start) the
> service, some modify user edited config files (removing / disabling modules
> in httpd.conf so Apache is broken on each upgrade of module(s)).
>
> Miroslav Lachman


Beg pardon, but I am aware of this being discussed twice on this list and
both times there was a clear consensus in both cases that it was
unacceptable or a port/package upgrade to touch running daemons.  There
were arguments that some port might make changes in underlying files that
could break a daemon in some way, though I can't recall any actual examples.

The only real argument was that leaving a daemon with a serious
vulnerability running was not acceptable. A competent admin should never
let this happen, but I'm sure it has.
--
Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer
E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com
PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683



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