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Date:      Wed, 16 May 2012 10:31:20 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= <des@des.no>
Cc:        Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org>, Jilles Tjoelker <jilles@stack.nl>, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [patch] halt/reboot/shutdown cleanup
Message-ID:  <04F10830-664A-4C60-9A85-C5874D2A30F4@bsdimp.com>
In-Reply-To: <86wr4ctcza.fsf@ds4.des.no>
References:  <20120513220646.GA12826@stack.nl> <CA766F13-E02E-4815-9AEE-984BC14F2CB9@bsdimp.com> <4FB0CF88.5010309@FreeBSD.org> <3D895644-0BA5-44F7-AC8F-07323729C1AA@bsdimp.com> <86wr4ctcza.fsf@ds4.des.no>

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On May 16, 2012, at 8:30 AM, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote:

> Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> writes:
>> Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org> writes:
>>> Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> writes:
>>>> I hate these messages, which is why I always use halt or reboot to
>>>> avoid them.=20
>>> You hate messages? Seriously?
>> Seriously.  And I'd appreciate it if you didn't mock me on this.  It
>> is rude and insulting and not constructive to a dialog.
>=20
> Sorry, Warner, but what I see here is *you* attacking and insulting
> Jilles and Doug.

No, I was telling Doug to back off since he's been annoying me lately.   =
And I haven't been insulting Jiles at all.  This came up before, there =
was no consensus.  It has come up again and we're making progress to a =
solution this time.

>> The distaste for extra, useless messages, I'll admit, is a =
personality
>> quirk that I share with many people.
>=20
> "The silent majority supports me" is not a valid argument.

That's not my argument at all.  Please don't twist it into that.  Go =
check the IRC logs for the folks that chimed in, but really, we're =
talking about changing interfaces that people are used to and aren't too =
keen on giving up.

Have a nice day.

Warner




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