Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:08:48 +0000 From: krad <kraduk@googlemail.com> To: Aristedes Maniatis <ari@ish.com.au> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: request: LOADER_ZFS_SUPPORT Message-ID: <d36406630911180208p73b69640g898a2cbfd0cef999@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4B02B4BB.30400@ish.com.au> References: <4B023061.7070203@ish.com.au> <hdtt1c$m23$1@ger.gmane.org> <4B02B4BB.30400@ish.com.au>
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2009/11/17 Aristedes Maniatis <ari@ish.com.au> > On 17/11/09 9:14 PM, Ivan Voras wrote: > >> Aristedes Maniatis wrote: >> >>> Is it possible that this flag be set to YES in the FreeBSD 8.0 branch >>> before final release? >>> >> >> Certainly not. The release is around the corner. >> > > In that case, there are some other options: > > 1. Build the binaries that freebsd-update uses with this flag set. That > isn't the same thing as changing the flag in the ISOs of the official > FreeBSD 8.0 release. > > 2. Build logic into freebsd-update which detects that the user has > LOADER_ZFS_SUPPORT in src.conf, or else that it is trying to replace a > working /boot/loader with a 'defective' version without ZFS capability. I > had previously thought freebsd-update took hashes of all system files so it > knew which ones had changed and what to warn the user about, but I must have > misunderstood that. > > 3. Deprecate freebsd-update as the recommended way to upgrade FreeBSD > systems and put source updates back to the top recommended choices. I've > noticed that all recent release notices recommend freebsd-update. > > Possibly freebsd-update should be maintained as part of the release process > and not by someone at arm's length to the re team. In recent times it has > broken rebooting after an update twice: once because of the above issue, and > earlier when updating from 7.2 to 8.0-beta it was impossible to install a > new kernel, reboot and then install world. This wasn't a freebsd-update > specific issue (there is an incompatibility between new ZFS kernel modules > and old userland tools), but it will bite everyone using freebsd-update and > ZFS. > > I suggest there will be a fair few unhappy people when 8.0 is released and > people using ZFS for system files upgrade from 7.x. Then when 8.1 whips > around and people who followed instructions to boot from ZFS without a UFS > partition, will suffer a second round of pain. > > Ari Maniatis > > > > -- > --------------------------> > ish > http://www.ish.com.au > Level 1, 30 Wilson Street Newtown 2042 Australia > phone +61 2 9550 5001 fax +61 2 9550 4001 > GPG fingerprint CBFB 84B4 738D 4E87 5E5C 5EFA EF6A 7D2E 3E49 102A > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > WHy not just build from source?
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