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Date:      Fri, 03 Oct 2014 19:45:18 +0400
From:      "Marat N.Afanasyev" <amarat@li.ru>
To:        =?UTF-8?B?SmVhbi1Tw6liYXN0aWVuIFDDqWRyb24=?= <dumbbell@freebsd.org>,  Claude Buisson <clbuisson@orange.fr>, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org>, ports@freebsd.org,  stable@freebsd.org, "freebsd-x11@freebsd.org" <freebsd-x11@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Removal of legacy X.Org (aka non-WITH_NEW_XORG)
Message-ID:  <542EC48E.2000507@li.ru>
In-Reply-To: <542E6B4D.10208@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <20141003083051.GA52332@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <542E6606.9050205@orange.fr> <542E6B4D.10208@FreeBSD.org>

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Jean-Sébastien Pédron wrote:
> On 03.10.2014 11:01, Claude Buisson wrote:
>> NVIDIA does not exist in your world ?
>
> Hi!
>
> You're right, we forgot to mention NVIDIA.
>
> The NVIDIA port installs its own bits from the kernel module to the
> specific libGL.so. The notion of "UMS/KMS" doesn't exist and the port is
> made to work with all versions of FreeBSD and X.Org server. Therefore,
> NVIDIA users are not impacted by this change at all.
>

I think that old X stack should not be dropped until at least, GPU 
locking problem is resolved, what we can say about Xorg stability under 
FreeBSD if one should reset one's desktop every week or so with lots of 
lost files? I cannot really use KMS drivers at all because of this 
problem. I've lost enough data while trying to test radeon kms, and I 
cannot switch from old xorg to new one. Is it possible to build new xorg 
without kms and with old radeon driver?

-- 
SY, Marat


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