Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:44:46 -0800 From: Eivind Eklund <eivind@FreeBSD.org> To: Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.ORG> Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pppd + natd (was: Re: some bugs in natd.8) Message-ID: <20030313084446.B79544@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20030313163143.GB34380@sunbay.com>; from ru@FreeBSD.ORG on Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 06:31:43PM %2B0200 References: <20030313221709.Y4254@gamplex.bde.org> <20030313124939.GA11574@sunbay.com> <20030313054400.C32285@FreeBSD.org> <20030313135103.GA20081@sunbay.com> <20030313065546.D32285@FreeBSD.org> <20030313150528.GA28029@sunbay.com> <20030313072458.E32285@FreeBSD.org> <20030313154358.GB28029@sunbay.com> <20030313081343.A79544@FreeBSD.org> <20030313163143.GB34380@sunbay.com>
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> > And I'm not active enough that I feel I have any right to any form of veto. > > > Thanks. I'm not against documenting "something", if I understand > what this "something" should be. That people absolutely should use ppp -nat instead of pppd+natd, and that this goes even if people ALREADY has a working pppd configuration. Or at least this was my experience when I added this, based on what lead to how much support (which I roughtly equate with problems for the users.) And that this should be documented in the natd manpage, because *that is where the people affected will be looking when they are affected*. > If people want pppd(8) over ppp(8) or mpd(8) for some reason, the only > options to NAT they have are ipnat(8) and natd(8). You sounded like > natd(8) should not be used on anything except NICs, this I strongly > disagree to. I certainly do not for recommending ppp(8) over pppd(8), > or for recommending "ppp -nat" over "ppp + natd", but the former > does not belong to the natd(8) manpage, and the latter is documented > there. I do not understand what you are attempting to say here at all. Ref mpd: I might still have patches to support using libalias with this directly somewhere; I remember submitting them back in 1997 or early 1998. Whistle did not want to integrate them in their mainline, though, as they were using a different NAT library internally. Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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