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Date:      Thu, 17 Nov 2005 15:53:47 -0800 (PST)
From:      Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
To:        Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org>
Cc:        alan bryan <alanbryan1234@yahoo.com>, FreeBSD current mailing list <current@freebsd.org>, Mike Tancsa <mike@sentex.net>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@leidinger.net>, "Bjoern A. Zeeb" <bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net>
Subject:   Re: Side note on Shuttle XPC / AMD X2 (SN95G5V3) (Re: [PATCH] nve(4) locking cleanup)
Message-ID:  <200511172353.jAHNrlDl007641@apollo.backplane.com>
References:  <20051117010651.97608.qmail@web50303.mail.yahoo.com>	<Pine.BSF.4.53.0511171134430.80787@e0-0.zab2.int.zabbadoz.net>	<20051117143322.lvz347pzkcg480co@netchild.homeip.net>	<200511171135.53903.jhb@freebsd.org>	<6.2.3.4.0.20051117120533.057ddae0@64.7.153.2> <200511171915.jAHJF0L6006229@apollo.backplane.com> <437CDD78.3010500@samsco.org>

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:
:I looked up this box and it looks pretty interesting, but I don't have 
:funds to buy one for myself at the moment.  Is the motherboard logic any 
:different from normal NF4 boards?  Could you try booting the FreeBSD 
:6.0-bootonly disk to see if at least sysinstall comes up and can talk
:to your drives and network chips?
:
:Scott

    I'd be happy to.  If you point me at an ISO image I can boot it up and
    try to run through the install.  Even better if its SMP (I think all
    FreeBSD distributions are SMP by default now, right?).

    I suspect that the MB logic is considerably different.  I have an
    ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe NF4 system as well (its our package building box),
    also with an AMD X2 in it, and it did not exhibit any of the problems
    I have had with the shuttle.  

    The ASUS has a different ethernet device... sk driver instead of nv.
    The BIOS on that MB also reports reasonable numbers in the MPTable and
    otherwise seems to be less confused then Shuttle's BIOS.  The MP Table
    on the ASUS lists 6 pure PCI busses while the one on the Shuttle
    lists only 3.  Both MB's have only one IO APIC.  The BIOSes are clearly
    very different.  Shuttle's is more 'raw'.

							-Matt




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