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Date:      Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:05:33 -0700
From:      Cy Schubert <cschuber@uumail.gov.bc.ca>
To:        "Pedro J. Lobo" <pjlobo@euitt.upm.es>
Cc:        freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Does mail.local need to be setuid-root? 
Message-ID:  <199904301706.KAA00762@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:47:18 %2B0200." <Pine.OSF.4.05.9904301535330.15810-100000@haddock.euitt.upm.es> 

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In message <Pine.OSF.4.05.9904301535330.15810-100000@haddock.euitt.u
pm.es>, "Pe
dro J. Lobo" writes:
> Hello, people.
> =

> I have a 3.1-RELEASE machine which, among other tasks, acts as a mail a=
nd
> telnet server for out students. Recently I noticed that several users w=
ere
> using more disk space than his quotas should allow (!). After a bit of
> investigation, I have traced down the problem to the mail system.
> =

> The problem is that you cand send mail to a user that is over quota, an=
d
> the system will append the new message to its inbox (located in /var/ma=
il,
> as by default). Indeed, root can append data to a file that belongs to =
a
> user that is over quota.
> =

> As you may see, it is a rather ugly "feature". So, the question is: doe=
s
> /usr/libexec/mail.local need to be setuid root? Or, alternatively, can =
I
> use /usr/bin/mail as the local mailer? I also administer an alpha with
> Tru64 Unix 4.0d and it uses /bin/mail (no setuid/setgid) as the local
> mailer.

The main difference between DU and FreeBSD is:

DU 4.0D:
OSF1 hostname V4.0 878 alpha
drwxrwxrwt   2 root     mail         512 Apr 26 00:00 =

/var/spool/mail
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     system         7 Dec  9 14:16 /bin -> =

usr/bin
-rws--x--x   2 root     bin        40960 Dec 29  1997 /usr/bin/mail

FreeBSD 3.1R:
FreeBSD hostname 3.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Apr  8 =

16:05:54 PDT 1999     root@hostname:/opt/usr_src-310/sys/compile/HOS
TNAME  i386
drwxrwxr-x  2 root  mail  512 Apr 30 09:41 /var/mail
-r-sr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  15056 Mar  2 06:53 /usr/libexec/mail.loca
l

Solaris 2.6 (for good measure):
SunOS HOSTNAME 5.6 Generic_105181-12 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-Enterpri
se
drwxrwxrwt   3 root     mail         512 Apr 29 23:45 /var/mail
-r-x--s--x   1 bin      mail       64376 Jul 15  1997 /bin/mail

You can resolve your issue by making mail.local sgid mail instead =

of suid root. Ownership of individual mail files cannot be set by =

mail.local when its sgid mail, so you will need to create each =

individual user's mail spool file with the proper permissions 660 =

and ownership before they can receive mail.  If mail.local is the =

only sgid mail application on your system, using sgid mail =

shouldn't be any less secure (from a privacy point of view) than =

the stock-out-of-the-box setup.


Regards,                       Phone:  (250)387-8437
Cy Schubert                      Fax:  (250)387-5766
Open Systems Group          Internet:  Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca
ITSD                                   Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca
Province of BC            =

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