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Date:      Wed, 30 Nov 2005 04:02:48 -0500
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        ?d?m Szilveszter <adamsz@mailpont.hu>
Cc:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Reflections on Trusting Trust
Message-ID:  <20051130090247.GA68049@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <4155.193.68.33.1.1133340924.squirrel@193.68.33.1>
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On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 09:55:24AM +0100, ?d?m Szilveszter wrote:
> On Sze, November 30, 2005 12:43 am, Colin Percival mondta:
> > Even before you get to that point, you have to worry about making sure
> > that the build clients are secure.  One possibility which worries me a
> > great deal is that a trojan in the build code for a low-profile port
> > (e.g., misc/my-port-which-nobody-else-uses) could allow an attacker to
> > gain control of a build client (and then insert trojans into packages
> > which are built there).
>=20
> Which practically begs the question: could we, pretty please, change the
> defaults and stop encouraging people from downloading distfiles and
> compiling them when using the ports tree as *root*? (shudder) There is
> exactly zero reason for this that I can think of apart from some "well
> it's more convenient that way" arguments.

And of course that some ports don't build as non-root :-)

If you're willing to fix them (there may be a lot), I could schedule a
full port build done as non-root so you can start work.

Kris
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