Date: Wed, 11 May 2022 16:58:27 +0200 From: Michael Schuster <michaelsprivate@gmail.com> To: Dave Cottlehuber <dch@skunkwerks.at> Cc: Wes Maag <jwmaag@gmail.com>, freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD, boot environments and /dev Message-ID: <CADqw_gJGGeQRvaUEBiCY_ScrrW8=ORtktRvF2nt7egAbrYhTTw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <481e0739-bdc4-4ce6-a856-a80cf5294d03@www.fastmail.com> References: <CADqw_g%2BUa8oc-cPm6N3ah1Ey1v-nfNk881O2Vp9TquhBcjDj_g@mail.gmail.com> <CAHMcx4PKQzxOCo2GPa7gR544OK7GQrhfbwQ4A8BBQPCteQXKTA@mail.gmail.com> <CADqw_gKY8vUwxX5LzEkhVtv1VggZtPJ10Zt_M8-jbymT0miimg@mail.gmail.com> <481e0739-bdc4-4ce6-a856-a80cf5294d03@www.fastmail.com>
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On Mon, May 9, 2022 at 10:04 AM Dave Cottlehuber <dch@skunkwerks.at> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 9 May 2022, at 06:25, Michael Schuster wrote:
> > On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 12:15 AM Wes Maag <jwmaag@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 5, 2022 at 4:10 PM Michael Schuster <michaelsprivate@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> while still working (slowly) on an answer to my own question on the
> >>> right workflow to keep current up to date reliably with boot
> >>> environments, I noticed that after creating and mounting a new BE,
> >>> that new BE's /dev (eg /mnt/dev) is very sparsely populated:
>
> This is expected; /dev would usually be empty until devfs is mounted.
You're right - I have a few "historical" BEs lying around, and for
most of them, /dev/ is empty. As you guess (below), for the others,
they're most likely remnants of the first time I tried to do "pkg -c
/mnt" without /mnt/dev being mounted. (as an aside: when was that
changed? I know for sure that this hasn't always been necessary)
I then created a new BE, mounted it on /mnt, removed /mnt/dev/* (only
regular files and empty directories). Booting into that BE didn't work
either, I got errors about missing "/dev/" files (can't recall the
exact names).
What do you guys (plural ;-)) think?
Thx
Michael
>
> Looking into the unmounted /dev via the last zfs snapshot of your
> / filesystem should also be empty:
>
> $ ls -AFGhl /.zfs/snapshot/$(ls -rt /.zfs/snapshot/ | tail -1)/dev
> total 0
>
> If it's not I'd guess these are stray garbage from BE experiments
> where /dev wasn't mounted and various scripts & tools tried to pipe
> via /dev/{fd,zero,null,...}.
>
> If you created a hypothetical "empty" BE from scratch, unpacked
> src tarballs into it, it would also be empty.
>
> A+
> Dave
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