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Date:      Thu, 24 Aug 2000 16:35:34 +0100
From:      simond@irrelevant.org
To:        Vivek Khera <khera@kciLink.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD Stable List <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: nuking "unsafe" protocols (was Re: Upcoming rc.conf changes not loading certain currently loaded daemons)
Message-ID:  <20000824163533.B80150@irrelevant.org>
In-Reply-To: <14757.16490.269381.416596@onceler.kciLink.com>; from khera@kciLink.com on Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 11:34:02AM -0400
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On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 11:34:02AM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote:
> >>>>> "s" == simond  <simond@irrelevant.org> writes:
> 
> s> On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 11:20:07AM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote:
> >> >>>>> "DM" == David McNett <nugget@slacker.com> writes:
> >> 
> DM> If someone insists on using those antiquated and unsafe protocols like
> DM> telnet and the r* services, we should at least make sure they're doing it
> DM> on purpose and not just leaving the defaults in place out of ignorance.
> >> 
> >> How do you make rdump/rmt work without the rcmd service?  I've got a
> >> LAN and do all backups of workstations to one server with a tape
> >> drive.  Without the rshd service, it won't work.
> 
> s> In that case just turn on the rshd from rc.conf, easy.
> 
> Yes, but then how does one ever eradicate "those antiquated and unsafe
> protocols" from the system?  Is there a way to make rmt work without
> rshd?  There will be a lot of unexpected breakage I'm sure.  Perhaps
> it should be documented what normal use programs (like
> rdump/rrestore/tar using rmt) will break if you turn off certain
> services that are currently on by default.

Surely rmt could work over ssh?

-- 
Simon Dick					simond@irrelevant.org


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