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Date:      Thu, 11 May 2023 14:24:24 +0000
From:      Gary Jennejohn <garyj@gmx.de>
To:        Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Mike Karels <mike@karels.net>, Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>, Mitchell Horne <mhorne@freebsd.org>, rgrimes@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: git: 36db6b04962a - main - hier(7): document /home/ and /usr/home/
Message-ID:  <20230511162424.3e8b3e55@ernst.home>
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On Thu, 11 May 2023 09:11:20 +0000
Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 04:48:12PM -0500, Mike Karels wrote:
> > ...
> > I'm sure the kludge was originally done when root and /usr were separa=
te
> > file systems by default, root was small, and there was no /home by def=
ault.
>
> I think that's the idea, yes.  FWIW, I still partition my drives this wa=
y:
> 2~4GB root with big /usr and /home (the latter lives on separate partiti=
on
> because it's encrypted).  For non-encrypted setup, /home does not have t=
o
> be a separate partition and can be a symlink to `usr/home'.  I actually
> don't find this inconvenient or particularly kludgy.  Surely it's nice t=
o
> be able to encrypt one's data, but it's also nice not having to worry if
> you'd suddenly get ENOSPC while there's still plenty of room on adjacent
> partition.
>

This kind of setup is OK for a single-user system.  But for an admin tryin=
g
to set up a system with many users it would be very problematical if /usr
were to fill up.

I personally have a 60G SSD for /usr and a 1TB SSD for /home.  My /home
has about 4 times more data on it than is on /usr.

> > However, we now default to a single large file system (with datasets, =
in
> > the ZFS case).
>
> ZFS makes it all easier of course, but at its present state is not usabl=
e
> on 13+, so I'm confined to UFS until ZoL guys can fix their sh^code. :(
>
> ./danfe
>


=2D-
Gary Jennejohn



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