Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 09:54:30 -0600 (MDT) From: "M. Warner Losh" <imp@village.org> To: des@ofug.org Cc: bright@mu.org, will@csociety.org, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org, arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Installing XFree86 package via sysinstall: need X wrapper or not? Message-ID: <20020623.095430.112622070.imp@village.org> In-Reply-To: <xzp1yay16sp.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no> References: <xzpheju21z0.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no> <20020622.225127.112566091.imp@village.org> <xzp1yay16sp.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no>
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Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org> writes:
: "M. Warner Losh" <imp@village.org> writes:
: > Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org> writes:
: > > Only users who haven't yet entered the 90s and discovered xdm.
: > I think this attitude is not helpful. xdm broke badly on the last set
: > up upgrades I did to X. startx is the only thing that still works for
: > me.
:
: I don't think your attitude is helpful either. You should be trying
: to figure out (or helping someone try to figure out) what's wrong with
: xdm, rather than whining about it.
Given the number of bugs that I have on my plate for PCCARD, and the
hellish schedule at work, I desided to live with it rather than spend
more time on it. It isn't whinging. I have a limited amount of time.
I also am doing sufficient driver work that booting to X is a pain and
starting it by hand is useful, so I've not been motivated to figure it
out from that angle either.
: Maybe *this* is what's really wrong with FreeBSD: people seem more
: comfortable whining about bugs and building up grudges towards those
: they think are responsible for them, than trying to actually fix them.
Maybe. I wasn't blaming you for it, as I have no clue what the
problem was. I'm pretty sure it isn't PAM since it broke when I
upgraded X, not when I did an installworld. Now that the crunch time
is over, I may find some time to deal. Maybe you are a hearing insult
and derision where none was really meant.
Warner
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