Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:27:48 +0000 (GMT) From: Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org> To: Aristedes Maniatis <ari@ish.com.au> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd 7 release process Message-ID: <20080125142322.E15118@fledge.watson.org> In-Reply-To: <D74B9A0E-F4FF-4F8A-B263-DC8644EA5337@ish.com.au> References: <D74B9A0E-F4FF-4F8A-B263-DC8644EA5337@ish.com.au>
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008, Aristedes Maniatis wrote: > How can non-committers like myself keep up to date with the progress of > freebsd releases? I read stable, current and cvs mailing lists. I've even > looked at the qa mailing list but it looks completely abandoned (perhaps the > links to it should be removed from the web site). > > I see this page: > > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.0R/todo.html > > but it tells me that we are just waiting for Robert Watson to complete > testing of the MAC framework changes. Nothing in commit logs or mailing > lists correlates to that so I assume it is incorrect. > > Really, all I want to do is to get a handle on the known outstanding bugs, > but the FreeBSD bug tracking system is very crappy (compared to almost all > other open source projects I use or am involved in) and has no way to look > at bugs by reported-in version or target release. So my question is: how do > other people know what is happening? Does re have a mailing list somewhere I > can read? > > I know many people are putting in vast amount of effort here, so this is not > a criticism of the delays. Just without any regular bulletins, emails to the > mailing lists, bug tracker or web site updates I can't tell what bugs are > left, what are fixed and what I need to be aware of. Thanks for the prod -- I've update the todo list to reflect the 7.0RC2 issues I'm aware of (that is, the things currently blocking building and shipping RC2). If I bump into any others, I'll add them. It takes a bit for the web site to rebuild, so I've attached the current pending TODO items for 7.0RC2 here: A race in TCP will lead to very occasional returning of 0.0.0.0:0 rather than the TCP accept Gleb Smirnoff, correct IP address via the race condition In progress Robert Watson socket address returned by accept(). A patch is in HEAD and RELENG_7, and will shortly be merged to RELENG_7_0 for inclusion in 7.0RC2. Races in the sleepq implementation will occasionally result in sleeps with timeouts failing to wake up. A patch is sleepq race in HEAD and will shortly be condition In progress John Baldwin merged to RELENG_7 and RELENG_7_0 for inclusion in 7.0RC2. The sleepq code is being reviewed for other possibly related bugs and further fixes may be forthcoming. Multiple race conditions in the tty/pty code have lead to occasional panics. One set of pty race In progress Konstantin problems has been fixed, but condition Belousov others are still being explored It is aniticipated that the remaining problems will be fixed for 7.0RC2. There have been status e-mails from Ken ... but only to the private developers mailing list. I've asked him if he could start also sending them to current@/stable@, it was just an oversight that they weren't being sent there. We're extremely close to a 7.0RC2, which with any luck will be the last RC, btw. 7.0 is looking like one of the most stable ".0" releases we've ever done, and has some very nice features... Robert N M Watson Computer Laboratory University of Cambridge
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