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Date:      Mon, 2 Jun 2003 17:19:30 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Andrew Gallatin <gallatin@cs.duke.edu>
To:        Kenneth Culver <culverk@yumyumyum.org>
Cc:        arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Making a dynamically-linked root
Message-ID:  <16091.48994.166392.824851@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20030602162027.E11044-100000@alpha.yumyumyum.org>
References:  <16091.44150.539095.704531@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20030602162027.E11044-100000@alpha.yumyumyum.org>

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Kenneth Culver writes:
 > > I don't want to sound harsh, and I do appreciate your work.  However,
 > > I think the last thing FreeBSD needs now is to get slower.  We're
 > > already far slower than that other free OS.  Shouldn't we consider
 > > making the dynamic root optional and leaving a static root as
 > > standard?
 > 
 > Since when are we "far slower" than the other free operating system?
 > According to all my benchmarks and personal use, the two are about the
 > same, with FreeBSD "feeling" slightly faster. That said, I think making
 > the / binaries dynamically linked optional is a good idea.


Since SMPng.  Try running webstone (available in ports) on a server
with multiple 10/100 links, or a gig link.  By any metric you choose,
5.x is slower than 4.x, and much slower than linux.  

Note this is not intended to be a criticism of SMPng.  Once the
locking in 5.x is completed, I think things will look a _LOT_ better.
But as it is now, we're paying most of the price and not reaping many
benefits because too much of the system is still under Giant.

Drew


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