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Date:      Wed, 7 Aug 1996 10:47:15 -0500 (CDT)
From:      Joe Greco <jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com>
To:        john@katan.pomona.edu (john)
Cc:        peter@clari.net.au, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Trial accounts
Message-ID:  <199608071547.KAA02641@brasil.moneng.mei.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.91.960807080438.16513A-100000@katan.pomona.edu> from "john" at Aug 7, 96 08:10:20 am

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> On Wed, 7 Aug 1996, Peter Hawkins wrote:
> 
> > I'd like to gather some feelings about providing (perhaps restricted) "trial"
> > 1. security
> > 2. The potential for someone to dial in under that name indefinitely.
> > 
> > However I don't want to lose custom :) so if there are ways of
> > addressing 1. and 2. I'd like to hear them.
> > 
> > Peter
> ---
> well, from my experience i've seen two easy ways of extending acct use.
> 
> 1. a file under the name of "TERMSET*" was placed in a trial home 
> directory which altered the time counter and the user was allowed to use the 
> acct indefinitely.
> 	i'm not sure exactly what TERMSET* was altering, but it worked
> 
> 2. after a trial period, even though the acct had expired, ftp was still 
> open.  so someone was able to ftp a new .login file and consequently 
> dialin indefinitely.
> 
> both methods aren't real security holes, simple settings changes would do 
> the trick.  it's more of a reflection on the sysadmins.  they were either 
> too busy, too lazy or too stupid to take care of it.

I will note that BSD login does have support for an "account expiration
date".  This would seem ideal for this sort of application.

... JG


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