Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 02:33:58 +0400 From: Subbsd <subbsd@gmail.com> To: Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@freebsd.org> Cc: Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org>, freebsd-current Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: shells/bash port, add a knob which symlinks to /bin/bash ? Message-ID: <CAFt_eMpAWM6X20Y-qbK9LR0UTuXpFEfROSnP=JQ4n9smQGn=WA@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAG=rPVeCwWQ5RP=EkkUMojzYprV3Se%2BjP9g31p0-eUmSPBUWRQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAG=rPVf5z4c6aheCngKy1g-iH8HexAWGQfHoSbtU9D1UC0Pbpg@mail.gmail.com> <20140912214004.GT6096@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54136D5D.3090905@mu.org> <CAG=rPVeCwWQ5RP=EkkUMojzYprV3Se%2BjP9g31p0-eUmSPBUWRQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 2:23 AM, Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@freebsd.org> wrote: > Hi, > > I could live with this solution of additional port outside of the main > bash port, which creates the symlink and updates /etc/shells. > > One other thing I am seeing is that many, many shell scripts are written > assuming "#!/bin/bash". > Forcing all upstream script writers to switch to "#!/usr/bin/env bash", or > to convert their scripts to "#!/bin/sh" and remove all bash-specific > behaviors, is getting harder and harder, > since many people are exposed to MacOS X and Linux on desktops. > > -- > Craig > > > > On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org> wrote: > >> The correct thing is to make a port/pkg that installs the symlink and >> /etc/shells this for the user. >> >> There is no need for changes to 'base' nor do we need a change to the >> system port. >> >> -Alfred >> >> >> On 9/12/14 2:40 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 02:12:45PM -0700, Craig Rodrigues wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> In the last 3 jobs that I have worked at, there have been >>>> a mix of Linux machines and FreeBSD machines. >>>> When using an NIS or LDAP environment where >>>> there is a single login across multiple machines, it is useful to >>>> have a single shell setting. >>>> >>>> Since Linux and MacOS X have "/bin/bash" as the shell, >>>> in order to get the FreeBSD boxes to play in this environment, >>>> I have seen admins do the following on FreeBSD setups: >>>> ln -s /usr/local/bin/bash /bin/bash >>>> >>>> or >>>> >>>> ln /usr/local/bin/bash /bin/bash >>>> >>>> and then make sure that /etc/shells as: >>>> /usr/local/bin/bash >>>> /bin/bash >>>> >>>> Can we add an optional knob (turned off by default) which creates this >>>> symlink >>>> and updates /etc/shells? >>>> >>>> This would help with interoperability of FreeBSD hosts in environments >>>> mixed >>>> with Linux and MacOS X. >>>> >>>> Please no, no and no! >>> >>> We are fighting for a very long time to prevent the ports to pollute base. >>> >>> We have added the shebangfix USES to be able to catch with up with >>> cleanup this >>> properly as well as a qa test to discover it automatically. >>> >>> no interpreters at all have a symlink in base but perl and this one is >>> going to >>> be removed. >>> >>> If you want interoperability just use /usr/bin/env bash as a shebang. Btw >>> you >>> cannot get interoprability with OS-X in there because the bash they do >>> provide >>> is the last GPL-2 recent bash have many incompatiblities with this old >>> version. >>> >>> regards, >>> Bapt >>> >> Looks like variant symlink is may be useful for solving this problem and it is not cluttered base https://wiki.freebsd.org/200808DevSummit?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=variant-symlinks-for-freebsd.pdf
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