Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 10:13:39 -0500 From: "Jacques A. Vidrine" <nectar@FreeBSD.org> To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>, Jordan Hubbard <jkh@winston.freebsd.org>, Oscar Bonilla <obonilla@galileo.edu>, Anthony Schneider <aschneid@mail.slc.edu>, Mike Meyer <mwm-dated-1019955884.8b118e@mired.org>, hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Security through obscurity? (was: ssh + compiled-in SKEY support considered harmful?) Message-ID: <20020425151339.GB7802@shade.nectar.cc> In-Reply-To: <20020425120259.B79657@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20020423131646.I6425@wantadilla.lemis.com> <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1020423110123.64976j-100000@fledge.watson.org> <20020424090655.O6425@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20020424122754.GC42969@madman.nectar.cc> <20020425120259.B79657@wantadilla.lemis.com>
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On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 12:02:59PM +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > > I think it would be better to just put `-nolisten tcp' in > > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc for new installations only. Then > > the system administrator could easily override it for all users; and > > at least a user can override it for herself. > > If he knew about it. It's the old documentation trick. > Look at my last message to Terry: we're talking > about a package we don't control here. If somebody comes to FreeBSD > from another system and X doesn't work the way he expects, he'll blame > FreeBSD, not X. Well then we are sunk. I object to breaking currently working installations. I think it's OK to use better defaults for new installations. This is a hard issue for me to argue, because I consider this particular change to be of questionable value. > > Disclosure: I'm unhappy that after upgrading my laptop yesterday, I > > found I couldn't run `x2x', > > Because of this issue? > Right. > > and had to restart my X session to remedy the problem. > > At least you knew what the problem was. Well, I've been running X for 10+ years. I guess I know what to look for. Cheers, -- Jacques A. Vidrine <n@nectar.cc> http://www.nectar.cc/ NTT/Verio SME . FreeBSD UNIX . Heimdal Kerberos jvidrine@verio.net . nectar@FreeBSD.org . nectar@kth.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
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