Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:01:38 -0500 From: Ken Smith <kensmith@cse.Buffalo.EDU> To: Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org> Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Murray Stokely <murray.stokely@gmail.com>, Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.org>, re@FreeBSD.org, Marc Ren? Arns <dienst@marcrenearns.de> Subject: Re: make buildkernel fails without complete source tree Message-ID: <1169492498.11889.74.camel@opus.cse.buffalo.edu> In-Reply-To: <45B506A7.7060909@FreeBSD.org> References: <200701171832.28368.dienst@marcrenearns.de> <474078f80701181348q16ceb16bs40ba45b3d7057b83@mail.gmail.com> <20070121212428.GA47379@rambler-co.ru> <200701221111.56264.jhb@freebsd.org> <1169489832.11889.64.camel@opus.cse.buffalo.edu> <45B506A7.7060909@FreeBSD.org>
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On Mon, 2007-01-22 at 10:47 -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
> Ken Smith wrote:
>=20
> > I think that's what Ruslan meant by it having "traditionally been
> > standalone". By tradition someone who just extracted the sys stuff
> > wasn't expecting to do 'make buildkernel', they expected to do the
> > 'config, etc'. For example someone who wanted to build custom kernels
> > but had no intention of updating the machine using the source tree, and
> > they knew how to build the kernels manually.
>=20
> True, but that's not even close to being the majority of FreeBSD
> users. Given that we promote 'make buildkernel' as the "proper" way of
> making a kernel, IMO we need to do what is necessary to make it easy
> for users to do that.
>=20
True. I guess this is sort of where I was headed. IMHO we should
either leave it as-is for the traditionalists or we should bite the
bullet and stop providing a separate kernel source tree. As John
pointed out in the message after this one life has moved on and
now /usr/src is teeny compared to the size of disks. Is it worth the
hassle/confusion to provide just kernel source any more?
--=20
Ken Smith
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