Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 17:52:20 +1000 From: Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au> To: Malartre <malartre@aei.ca> Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/BSD/ Message-ID: <19980524175220.10000@welearn.com.au> In-Reply-To: <3567C85E.24F441B9@aei.ca>; from Malartre on Sun, May 24, 1998 at 03:12:30AM -0400 References: <3566754B.78B28C72@aei.ca> <19980524022609.21670@welearn.com.au> <356772AE.C76BAB13@aei.ca> <19980524154624.58829@welearn.com.au> <3567C85E.24F441B9@aei.ca>
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On Sun, May 24, 1998 at 03:12:30AM -0400, Malartre wrote: > Sue Blake wrote: > > > On Sat, May 23, 1998 at 09:06:54PM -0400, Malartre wrote: > > > Sue Blake wrote: > > > > > > > On Sat, May 23, 1998 at 03:05:48AM -0400, Malartre wrote: > > > > > I dont know where to mail that post, so I mail it to advocacy ;-) > > > > > > > > > > I've worked some hours on a new concept for a new FreeBSD.org page. > > > > > > > > Why? What exactly were you aiming to alter? > > > > > > > > > Its not perfect, links are broken and there is no new graphics. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/BSD/ > > > > > > > > Sure, it doesn't fit in my browser window yet. The real one does. > > > > > > > > I'd like to hear what it is that you think needs changing, before looking > > > > at how you're suggesting it could be done. > > > > > > Sue, present me a screen shot of your web browser when it dont fit and say to > > > me your resolution. It work really good with netscape and lynx.... > > > > I've mailed it to you. > > > > As you will see, there's a large blank margin on the left and on the > > right, and the two columns of text in the centre overlap each other. > > I can't see the end of some of the words on the left. > > > > Other words appear as a list, but I think that some of those words are > > supposed to appear together as a single phrase. They don't. > > > > The bottom half of the page has no text on the left, only a section to > > the right of the centre. The four graphics at the bottom are not centred > > with respect to this text, and are bunched up. On the FreeBSD site these > > four are nicely spread out over the width of the window, whatever size > > that window is. > > > > These are the things that happen when you try describe screen layout > > instead of describing the document and letting the client handle it. > > > > > I really want to do it right just for you ;-) > > > > That's not a good reason :-) > > Besides, it should be right for anybody. It should not work just for my > > window, but it should work for every possible window size. > > > > > It work for me with > > > Lynx > > > Netscape 4.04 (640x480, 800x600 and 1024x768 without any trouble. There is no > > > horisontal scrolling) > > > MSIE-3.2 (Its not so beautiful with it, but its compatible) > > > > Did you validate the HTML yet? > > > > > There is a need to change the link allocation. > > > The current page work like a tree > > > FreeBSD.ORG --> 10 major choice of URL (3 are at the end of the page... > > > Getting FreeBSD, FreeBSD FAQ and Handbook. That stupid to put them there.) > > > -->All other link > > > > > > My page work like that: > > > FreeBSD.ORG --> All link (like that, no need to search for the Y2K bug: its > > > on the top) > > > > OK, now that I know what your objectives are I can take a proper look at > > it with that in mind. It seems like the main thing you wanted to do was > > to put links on the first page which lead to most of the other pages. > > That is a nice idea, and you've made a very good start on that part of it > > even though it's impossible for me to see it in its best light at the moment. > > > > -- > > > > Regards, > > -*Sue*- > > The main problem is OK nowthere was an error, I have forget to do that: > CELLPADDING=3 > The problem should now be ok. The words still overlap, slightly differently now. > The main problem with your browser setting his than you have modified how big you > want to see letters. Its ok, now than I have putted a cellpading. I even tested it > with more bigger letter than yours. Sorry, I don't see this as being *my* problem. I believe it is up to the client to decide how a page should be displayed. The HTML should merely describe the document structure. If nobody else believes this, fine, I'll shut up. > Now, your problem is than there is a lot of wasted space on the down left side. But > there is not a lot of thing to do, that's a main problem when you do 2 vertical > line. Also:WIDTH=600 have nothing to do with that problem. > > For the wasted space on the *left and right*, it should not be wasted when you see > the page in the habitual way: there is not to much vertical scrolling. I don't think it's worth going into the details any more on this. Either you're happy with the way it is or you heard me the first time. > > "Did you validate the HTML yet?" I try right now > > Never forget than when you change the way IN netscape you look a page, you get a > good effect but you are penalized on a lot of sites. Its you who take the choice. A > problem in Netscape is when you change Fonts Size, you do not change Width size, so > it create your problem. To make a site more usefull or more beautiful, sometime > you have to do choice. > > My choice: 99% of the people should not have any problems to see it. 1% should see > it without problems, its not so beautifull for them but they can easily read it. 0% > should have major problem to read it. Now it should work well for you, but you do > not have the more beautiful site in the world. I do appreciate your trying to help me to set up my browser, but I'm not accustomed to having web pages tell me how to use my software and I probably won't change. If you're happy reaching a proportion of the people out there, simply regard me as being in the remainder. > Send me a screen shot of how you see it now. > What version of netscape do you use? > Anyone can test my page with Chimera and other broswers? No more. If those things are relevant to what you're doing, go right ahead. They're not relevant to what I'm doing. I've told you what I saw and what I thought was wrong, and from there it is up to you to decide what to do. I'm not the only person who can be right. Do whatever you want, and may you and others enjoy the outcomes of whatever you do. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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