Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 13:16:59 -0700 (PDT) From: The Clark Family <res03db2@gte.net> To: Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Gimme FreeBSD anyday! Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0008221305520.4505-100000@orthanc.dsl.gtei.net> In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20000821110604.04ba5920@localhost>
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Brett, Now I'm curious. Did Be go with GCC over Metrowerks because it was cheaper, or because Metrowerks was spending too much time on their Mac products? Or is the Intel version of Metrowerks's C/C++ compiler inferior? Or did Be hope to cash in on the Linux hysteria by using GCC? Credit is due to GCC right? Is there any open source or GPL OS out there that didn't get where it is by pimping GCC? FreeBSD? GCC? NetBSD? GCC? OpenBSD? GCC? Linux? GCC? Are there any commercial compilers that don't live without the support of their parents? Borland is dead, and open source? Watcomm is dead, and open source? What is left? Are we seeing a trend? Milk a product for what its worth, and then make it open source. Instead of the cathedral and the bazaar, it should be the garage sale and the free box. [RC] On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, Brett Glass wrote: > At 07:41 AM 8/21/2000, j mckitrick wrote: > > >i just read a comment that *nix doesn't even have good, intuitive debugger. > >all there really are are wrappers for ancient command line utils. this does > >not seem very state of the art compared with vc++ or softice. > > Unfortunately, the GPLed combination of GCC and gdb has killed any initiative > toward new and better compilers and debuggers on UNIX-like platforms. Even if > a product is obviously superior, it will have great difficulty competing with > something that's given away for free. Few developers have even tried, and those > who have (like Metrowerks) are not succeeding. > > This is a big problem with the GPL. It doesn't allow commercial vendors to > make INCREMENTAL improvements on what is available for free and be compensated > for doing so. Instead, they must undertake the daunting task of a ground-up > reimplementation. And when they're done, who will pay for their work? The > market is decimated or gone altogether. > > --Brett Glass > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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