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Date:      Sun, 21 Jan 2024 12:11:59 +0100
From:      Daniel Engberg <daniel.engberg.lists@pyret.net>
To:        "Mikhail T." <mi+t@virtual-estates.net>
Cc:        Kurt Jaeger <pi@freebsd.org>, Mathieu Arnold <mat@freebsd.org>, ports-committers@freebsd.org, dev-commits-ports-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-ports-main@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: git: b430a140c818 - main - net-im/purple-gowhatsapp: add WhatsApp plugin for libpurple
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On 2024-01-21T11:43:48.000+01:00, Mikhail T.
<mi+t@virtual-estates.net> w=
rote:

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Hi,

While neither Porters Handbook or Com=
mitters Guide say it's a
requirement it's quite strongly suggested that y=
ou do use it. Given
that all pkg-fallout mails are from Poudriere it's mo=
re or less
implied as committer to use it.

https://docs.freebsd.org/=
en/books/porters-handbook/book/#porting-testing

https://docs.freebsd.o=
rg/en/articles/committers-guide/#ports-qa-add-new-extra

Best regards,=


Daniel


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<div>On 2024-01-21T11:43:48.000+01:00, Mikhail T. &lt;mi+t@virtual-estates.=
net&gt; wrote:<br></div><div class=3D"ik_mail_quote answerContentMessage"><=
blockquote class=3D"ws-ng-quote"><div class=3D"ws-ng-mail-style--12358eJzzz=
EvKr9B1K0pNdQp20QILyop1k3Oz83NLCkGAIbYCfk"><div class=3D"">21.01.24 05:39, =
Kurt Jaeger:<br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><pre><blockquote style=3D"c=
olor:#007cff;" type=3D"cite"><pre wrap=3D"" class=3D"">I didn't use poudrie=
rre, because I find it a pain to use and not worth the
trouble for a new port.
<br></pre></blockquote><pre wrap=3D"" class=3D"">It is absolutly essential,=
 because only that mechanism guarantees
a clean build.<br></pre></pre></blockquote><div>If it is so essential, the =
rules can be updated to mandate it.<span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap;"> W=
hat's a "clean build" anyway? </span> <br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
pre><blockquote style=3D"color:#007cff;" type=3D"cite"><pre wrap=3D"" class=
=3D"">And here the truth comes out. Mathieu Arnold believes himself to be a
MANAGER of mine -- and, presumably, that of all the other
ports-committers.
<br></pre></blockquote><pre wrap=3D"" class=3D"">He's the one with a huge a=
mount of experience and making it personal
does not help your cause.<br></pre></pre></blockquote><p>He made it persona=
l, not me. I don't have a "cause" -- I just
      want to share the work I'm doing for myself with others.<br></p><div =
class=3D"ik-toggle-quote-button"><br></div><blockquote><p>-mi<br></p></bloc=
kquote></div></blockquote></div><div>Hi,<br></div><div><br></div><div>While=
 neither Porters Handbook or Committers Guide say it's a requirement it's q=
uite strongly suggested that you do use it. Given that all pkg-fallout mail=
s are from Poudriere it's more or less implied as committer to use it.<br><=
/div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/porte=
rs-handbook/book/#porting-testing">https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/porter=
s-handbook/book/#porting-testing</a><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://docs.=
freebsd.org/en/articles/committers-guide/#ports-qa-add-new-extra">https://d=
ocs.freebsd.org/en/articles/committers-guide/#ports-qa-add-new-extra</a><br=
></div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,<br></div><div>Daniel<br></div>


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