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Date:      Tue, 12 Jun 2018 07:34:56 -0700
From:      Devin Teske <dteske@freebsd.org>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        Kyle Evans <kevans@freebsd.org>, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org, dteske@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r334939 - head/stand/lua
Message-ID:  <5F2C1321-ABD5-4065-8C3C-261CC575767C@freebsd.org>
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> On Jun 12, 2018, at 7:10 AM, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
>=20
>=20
>=20
>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 6:23 PM, Devin Teske <dteske@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>=20
>>> On Jun 11, 2018, at 11:20 AM, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 11:54 AM, Devin Teske <dteske@freebsd.org> wrote=
:
>>>>=20
>>>>> On Jun 11, 2018, at 7:07 AM, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 7:36 AM, Devin Teske <dteske@freebsd.org> wrot=
e:
>>>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> At BSD Can there was the boot working group where we discussed that an =
FCP would be required to decide this.
>>>=20
>>> In the working group you weren't listening and being rather combative an=
d demanding that I do stuff,
>>=20
>> I think that's an unfair characterization of the situation, but it doesn'=
t matter -- that's your opinion and you are entitled to it.
>=20
> I would like to unconditionally apologize for my harsh words to Devin here=
. I let my frustration get the better of me, which I should not have done. D=
evin has been quite helpful for a long time with the boot loader and things r=
elated to FORTH, and I should not have lashed out like this. I hope she can f=
orgive my ill-chosen words.

Thanks Warner. Forgiven if you can forgive any harshness from me at BSDCan.

I also have to apologize for my performance in the working group. It could h=
ave been better and I kind of monopolized the conversation. Apologies.

>>> so I stopped talking.
>>=20
>> Hopefully we can _start_ talking. As the principled author of this work, I=
 want to have a say in its deprecation since I still maintain that body of w=
ork.
>=20
> Yes. Work is underway to get a draft of a FCP together to start a discussi=
on in arch to come to a data-driven decision. There's no desire to exclude y=
ou from this process.
>=20

Excellent. Looking forward to helping strike a good balance for the path for=
ward for a smooth transition between boot languages.

Devin=



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