Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 17:44:28 +0000 From: Amancio Hasty <hasty@star-gate.com> To: Nate Williams <nate@trout.sri.MT.net> Cc: hackers@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: MBONE interfaces and snazzy install tools. Message-ID: <199503281744.RAA11596@star-gate.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 28 Mar 1995 18:27:40 MST." <199503290127.SAA12442@trout.sri.MT.net>
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> > Again, something like an installation tool will be trivial to implement in > > tcl/tk which will work for X and curses. > > Or TkPerl. :-) Sorry but the last time I check TkPerl it was well to say it kindly not ready for prime time. > > If it helps, SCO has standardized on using all the sys admin tools > > around tcl/tk. > > Not unless you have the sources to the tools and can re-distribute them. > :-) That was not the point . I merely wanted to say that at least a major company has adopted tcl/tk for the kind of stuff we want to do. > We need to standardize on *one* scripting language, and jumping from one > ship to the next as it becomes popular does not help us. First of all I did not participate on including perl into the system. And, I was one of the first programmers to port tcl/tk back in the days of 386bsd so to say that I like today tcl/tk because is fashionable is not too cool but crude. Now lets talk about fashionably about the problems of providing a decent object oriented paradigm. Sadly, the language that we need is not perl, tcl/tk, nor scheme. Two decent recent languages that come to mind are : Java : http://webrunner.neato.org HotJava is a new webserver written in Java. newton script Both of them have a C type syntax and provide a reasonable object oriented paradigm. In the case of newton script is already a product and being used out in the field by users. And Yes, there is no port of it for Unix that I know however I don't consider this a bit obstacle. > IMHO, Perl is much more readable than tcl/tk. It has a much nicer $Sorry $I $hate $Pearl... > ,and since we don't have tcl/tk > in the system and no reasons to bring them 'right now', then I think Very lame excuse if you ask me specially if pearl is not up to the job. Amancio
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