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Date:      Sun, 24 Nov 1996 14:25:59 -0800 (PST)
From:      "Rodney W. Grimes" <rgrimes@GndRsh.aac.dev.com>
To:        phk@critter.tfs.com (Poul-Henning Kamp)
Cc:        jkh@time.cdrom.com, joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: 2.2-ALPHA install failure
Message-ID:  <199611242225.OAA00748@GndRsh.aac.dev.com>
In-Reply-To: <410.848871469@critter.tfs.com> from Poul-Henning Kamp at "Nov 24, 96 10:37:49 pm"

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> >> >Or we could get Poul-Henning to DTRT with libdisk - that would
> >> >be a concept, and even the correct place to handle it. :-)
> >> 
> >> I actually looked at this, and there are some comments in order:
> >> 
> >> 1. I'm still not sure we know what TRT is.  Although the MB/64hd/32sect
> >> sounds like the best bet to me.
> >
> >I agree on the now knowing for sure what TRT is, I kinda liked the
> >suggestion of defaulting to 0/0/0 and forcing the user to enter values,
> >atleast that stops the X/1/1 problem dead in its track.
> 
> Looking at the code the X/1/1 seems very deliberate and concious.  I
> wonder who did that and why ?

Good point.  I don't recall who did it, I can say that this works fine
inside the BSD disklabel, but it is very problematic as an MBR entry.
Perhaps the person propogated what works well in a disklabel, figuring
that it also worked well for the MBR?

> >> 2. Even if we did, I'd need a very dedicated tester with an NCR 
> >> controller to help me test it out on the only HW we know of that
> >> fails.
> >
> >The NCR deals just fine with MB/64h/32s, I have 5 systems here running
> >that way with disk sizes running from 500MB to 4.5G, all on NCR, all
> >using MB/64/32.
> 
> Yeah, but I need to have somebody test the sysinstall disk nontheless,
> and I seem to recall that you have never been converted to the new
> testament ?  :-)

The new testament doesn't work when you do between 2 and 15 installs a
day, it gets in my way too often and even trying to use the batch mode
script stuff looks to be troublesome as often each machine is just
different enough.... 

dd/fdisk/disklabel/newfs/restore are my friends, they work very well
for what I do and how much of it I do.

Let me see if I can free up some of my tech's time on monday, he has
done a few installs using sysinstall and could play with it for you
on a NCR based system, heck for that matter, he can test it on NCR/
AHA2940/AHA1542/AHA1742/Buslogic 747/Buslogic 946 if you so desire.
I think production builds are all done, so he shouldn't have much
to do tomarrow...  good project for him!

-- 
Rod Grimes                                      rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com
Accurate Automation, Inc.                   Reliable computers for FreeBSD



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