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Date:      Thu, 20 Apr 2023 09:33:53 +0100
From:      Mike Clarke <jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Problem with left over files from earlier releases
Message-ID:  <5782671.Zv9zXsTiuT@curlew>
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On Wednesday, 19 April 2023 12:41:32 BST Yuri wrote:

> Mike Clarke wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 19 April 2023 11:58:00 BST Yuri wrote:
> >> Mike Clarke wrote:

<snip>

> >> >  But this makes me wonder how many redundant
> >> > old files might be lying around in the base system and potentially
> >> > causing problems. Is there any easy way to track these down other than
> >> > doing a fresh install from scratch? Since I'm intending to upgrade to
> >> > 13.2 soon this could be a good time to see if there's more redundant
> >> > stuff to clean out.
> >> 
> >> If you are using source upgrades, check list-old* and delete-old*
> >> targets in /usr/src/Makefile.
> 
> If you have src installed, and it IS up to date with currently running
> release, you could try using those targets anyway.
> 
> OTOH, I don't know if freebsd-update is supposed to take care of
> obsolete files/directories.

Thanks. I ran make 'check list-old' and it came up with 150 items, some dating back as far 
as 2010! So I booted into a new BE and ran  delete-old and 
 delete-old-libs to get rid of them.

Everything seems to be working fine now. Some of the old files might have even been the 
cause of a few random crashes I've sometimes had with a couple of programs. But if 
problems arise over the next few daya or weeks I can revert to the earlier BE with all the 
files present.

-- 
Mike Clarke

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<body><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">On Wednesday, 19 April 2023 12:41:32 BST Yuri wrote:</p>
<br /><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; Mike Clarke wrote:</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; On Wednesday, 19 April 2023 11:58:00 BST Yuri wrote:</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; Mike Clarke wrote:</p>
<br /><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&lt;snip&gt;</p>
<br /><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&nbsp; But this makes me wonder how many redundant</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; old files might be lying around in the base system and potentially</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; causing problems. Is there any easy way to track these down other than</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; doing a fresh install from scratch? Since I'm intending to upgrade to</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; 13.2 soon this could be a good time to see if there's more redundant</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; stuff to clean out.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; If you are using source upgrades, check list-old* and delete-old*</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; targets in /usr/src/Makefile.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; If you have src installed, and it IS up to date with currently running</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; release, you could try using those targets anyway.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; OTOH, I don't know if freebsd-update is supposed to take care of</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; obsolete files/directories.</p>
<br /><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">Thanks. I ran make 'check list-old' and it came up with 150 items, some dating back as far as 2010! So I booted into a new BE and ran&nbsp; delete-old and </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&nbsp;delete-old-libs to get rid of them.</p>
<br /><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">Everything seems to be working fine now. Some of the old files might have even been the cause of a few random crashes I've sometimes had with a couple of programs. But if problems arise over the next few daya or weeks I can revert to the earlier BE with all the files present.</p>
<br /><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">-- </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">Mike Clarke</p>
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