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Date:      Thu, 19 Oct 2000 08:22:41 +0200
From:      Wilko Bulte <wkb@freebie.demon.nl>
To:        "Brandon D. Valentine" <bandix@looksharp.net>
Cc:        Andrew Gallatin <gallatin@cs.duke.edu>, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Alpha XL 300
Message-ID:  <20001019082241.A6172@freebie.demon.nl>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0010182016001.10190-100000@turtle.looksharp.net>; from bandix@looksharp.net on Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 08:26:20PM -0400
References:  <20001018192534.C1832@freebie.demon.nl> <Pine.BSF.4.21.0010182016001.10190-100000@turtle.looksharp.net>

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On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 08:26:20PM -0400, Brandon D. Valentine wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote:
> 
> >On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 08:55:37AM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote:
> >> 
> >> Brandon D. Valentine writes:
> >>  > I am looking to buy an Alpha to run FreeBSD/AXP on.  I have the ability
> >>  > to buy a DEC Alpha XL 300 workstation and it looks like a good deal.
> >>  > It's got a 300Mhz 21164, 32MB of RAM, a 2.1 GB SCSI HDD and a SCSI CDROM
> >>  > in it.  All for ~$450 USD.  What I want to know is, is this as good a
> >>  > deal as it sounds, and will it run FreeBSD well.  I have been unable to
> >> 
> >> It won't run any of the *BSDs at all, because it does not have an SRM
> >> console.  
> >
> >And before someone asks: there won't be any SRM either. $450 is a stiff
> >price to pay for what is essentially a dead-end NT-only (OK, it can run
> >Linux IIRC) box.
> 
> Yeah, I finally found some info on that last night.  It's disappointing.
> Anyone want to recommend some reasonably priced Alpha dealers online,
> closeout and refurbished preferable to top-of-the-line, brand new.  If
> so, please email me off list, no sense discussing it further here.
> 
> If I understand the way Linux manages to run on these machines correctly
> is it has a miniloader which swaps the PALcode out before booting the
> OS.  Is there a specific reason this approach has not been pursued by
> the BSDs?  I'd imagine it would be dependent on the ability to swap in a

Read the alpha mailing list archives at [net,freebsd].org. This issue
has been discussed numerous times.

-- 
Wilko Bulte  	 
wilko@freebsd.org 			Arnhem, the Netherlands


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