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Date:      Wed, 02 Apr 2014 11:52:44 -0500
From:      Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Nikolai Lifanov <lifanov@mail.lifanov.com>, Glen Barber <gjb@freebsd.org>
Cc:        svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, Brooks Davis <brooks@freebsd.org>, src-committers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r264027 - in head: release share/man/man7
Message-ID:  <434d33e39cfb20eec115bb6aac30817d@shatow.net>
In-Reply-To: <533C3992.9030203@mail.lifanov.com>
References:  <201404012241.s31MfRW6020684@svn.freebsd.org> <20140402154022.GA70867@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> <20140402155134.GG14379@glenbarber.us> <533C32F5.9050809@mail.lifanov.com> <20140402160650.GH14379@glenbarber.us> <533C3992.9030203@mail.lifanov.com>

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On 2014-04-02 11:23, Nikolai Lifanov wrote:
> On 04/02/14 12:06, Glen Barber wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 11:55:33AM -0400, Nikolai Lifanov wrote:
>>> On 04/02/14 11:51, Glen Barber wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 10:40:22AM -0500, Brooks Davis wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 10:41:27PM +0000, Glen Barber wrote:
>>>>>> Author: gjb
>>>>>> Date: Tue Apr  1 22:41:26 2014
>>>>>> New Revision: 264027
>>>>>> URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/264027
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Log:
>>>>>>   Add a new release build variable, WITH_COMPRESSED_IMAGES.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   When set to a non-empty value, the installation medium is
>>>>>>   compressed with gzip(1) as part of the 'install' target in
>>>>>>   the release/ directory.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   With gzip(1) compression, downloadable image are reduced in
>>>>>>   size quite significantly.  Build test against head@263927
>>>>>>   shows the following:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>    bootonly.iso:		64% smaller
>>>>>>    disc1.iso:		44% smaller
>>>>>>    memstick.img:		47% smaller
>>>>>>    mini-memstick.img:	65% smaller
>>>>>>    dvd1.iso:		untested
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   This option is off by default, I would eventually like to
>>>>>>   turn it on by default, and remove the '-k' flag to gzip(1)
>>>>>>   so only compressed images are published on FTP.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'd recommend testing xz compression as well.  With UFS images of a 
>>>>> full
>>>>> world the savings vs gzip are significant (more than 30% IIRC, but 
>>>>> it's
>>>>> need more than a year since I checked so I'm a bit unsure of the 
>>>>> exact
>>>>> numbers).
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> delphij also brought this up.
>>>> 
>>>> I have concerns with xz(1), since there was mention in IRC that 
>>>> Windows
>>>> users may have problems decompressing xz-compressed images.  So, 
>>>> gzip(1)
>>>> is used because it seems to be the more commonly-supported archive
>>>> mechanisms.
>>>> 
>>>> The benefit of xz(1) over gzip(1) was only 50M-ish.
>>>> 
>>>>   -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   601M Mar 28 20:18 disc1.iso
>>>>   -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   381M Mar 28 20:18 disc1.iso.bz2
>>>>   -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   392M Mar 28 20:18 disc1.iso.gz
>>>>   -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   348M Mar 28 20:18 disc1.iso.xz
>>>> 
>>>> Glen
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> How about 7zip (Windows program, not file format)? What would a 
>>> Windows
>>> user use that can decompress gzip and not xz? It was a problem around
>>> ~2007, but xz support is no longer rare or exotic.
>>> 
>> 
>> I don't know, to be honest.  I have no Windows machines to test, so
>> I can only go by what I am told.
>> 
>> Glen
>> 
> 
> I just verified it with 7zip for Windows version 9.22. It extracts
> .tar.xz archives and decompresses .xz images.
> 
> - Nikolai Lifanov

My concern was requiring a *specific* tool to extract the ISO. However I 
do see that Winzip and Winrar both now support XZ as well.

-- 
Regards,
Bryan Drewery



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