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Date:      Wed, 04 Nov 1998 13:37:46 -0500
From:      "Steve Friedrich" <SteveFriedrich@Hot-Shot.com>
To:        "David Wolfskill" <dhw@whistle.com>, "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>, "gaylord@gaylord.async.vt.edu" <gaylord@gaylord.async.vt.edu>
Subject:   Re: has this been fixed?
Message-ID:  <199811041839.NAA20945@laker.net>

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On Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:59:25 -0800 (PST), David Wolfskill wrote:

>>From: Clark Gaylord <gaylord@gaylord.async.vt.edu>
>>Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 22:29:28 -0500 (EST)
>
>>> Just out of curiousity, how did the threshold for "a bit too long" get 
>>> determined?  Is this defined in the IDE standard?  Did someone conduct
>
>>IDE standard?  You are funny.  Let me guess, that's published on
>>www.snakeoil.com, right?
>
>Ummm....  I didn't ask the original question, but it's not at all clear
>to me why it should be "funny."
>
>Given that someone evidently thinks it is, I gether from context that
>the phrase "IDE standard" is a reference to a nonentity?  Is there an
>expectation that anyone who might ever want to use a FreeBSD system
>should know this?

IMHO, anyone who uses PC hardware had better be aware that an IDE
standard does not exist!!  Manufacturers have been making it up as they
go along.  SCSI isn't really that much better.  SCSI 1 devices from
different manufacturers frequently couldn't *talk*, due to ambiguities
in the spec.  SCSI 2 is better, but many manufacturers were selling
SCSI 2 devices before the spec was ratified (I think everyone stopped
producing SCSI 1 devices just before SCSI 1 spec got ratified), and
SCSI 3 (well, let's not go there).


>And what would the Chicago Tribune have to do with it?

Does the Tribune own the www.snakeoil.com domain??
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