Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 11:11:29 -0700 From: Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org> To: Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org> Cc: "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com>, freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org" <freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org>, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: [rfc] removing the NDISulator Message-ID: <CAJ-VmonHcksMgQZ%2BmiLu%2BL60auRyTOAcENBFkpaA1xEWJXeQRw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <526810DB.20705@mu.org> References: <5265878B.1050809@yandex.ru> <201310212146.r9LLkqZ1044966@fire.js.berklix.net> <CAJ-VmomzydOD-M1oePMuqrgdBCFMTXKCZcGVwu%2BLFTnHTGg0Kw@mail.gmail.com> <201310231023.32351.jhb@freebsd.org> <526810DB.20705@mu.org>
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On 23 October 2013 11:09, Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org> wrote: > Eh, having taken a stab at porting the bwl blob already, I would strongly >> oppose removing NDIS. If you do that I will just stop using my netbook >> with a Broadcom part altogether as I wouldn't be able to use it to try to >> test bwl changes. The NDIS thing is a bit hackish, but it is quite useful >> for a lot of folks. >> >> I have to agree. Deprecation != motivation. I can pull out examples of this not holding true: * all the giant locking in drivers * all the giant locking in VFS People did pop up and claim ownership of things they cared about. Some stuff died, some stuff didn't. There was enough of a motivation by us to kill giant off in these pathways so things could continue to evolve. We didn't leave the GIANT crutch in forever. -adrian
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