Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 00:12:30 +0200 From: Stijn Hoop <stijn@win.tue.nl> To: Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu> Cc: "Andrey A. Chernov" <ache@nagual.pp.ru>, Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>, Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org>, cvs-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libncurses Makefile Message-ID: <20020924221230.GL2009@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> In-Reply-To: <p05111701b9b690600e72@[128.113.24.47]> References: <20020924203449.42E932A7D6@canning.wemm.org> <Pine.BSF.4.21.0209241338580.41579-100000@InterJet.elischer.org> <20020924204954.GB60957@nagual.pp.ru> <p05111701b9b690600e72@[128.113.24.47]>
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On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 06:03:15PM -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
> At 12:49 AM +0400 9/25/02, Andrey A. Chernov wrote:
> >On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 13:39:55 -0700, Julian Elischer wrote:
> >>
> >> This is silly.. the +POS syntax is probably one of the most commonly
> >> used syntaxes for sort.
> >
> >Talk with POSIX people about it. +N is valid filename per POSIX, so
> >old syntax can't be preserved.
>
> What ever happened to the idea of using '--' to mean "all the following
> arguments are files, even if they look like options"?
>
> After all, every other option is also "a valid filename", so what is
> so special about "+N"?
>
> We can preserve anything we want to preserve, and document where our
> sort command is different from posix. Maybe at some future time it
> will be less painful to drop +N, but we will have enough pain with
> release 5.0 that we don't need to add this incompatible change.
>
> Just MO, of course.
FWIW, I also agree.
Furthermore, if you 'fix' sort, you should fix less also (and possibly others):
[stijn@pcwin165] </var/db/pkg/webalizer-2.1.10_1> less +COMMENT
Missing filename ("less --help" for help)
admittedly this is on -STABLE, but I don't think it's different on -CURRENT.
And I know less is probably not in POSIX, but I'm thinking about consistency.
--Stijn
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