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Date:      Tue, 09 Jul 2013 08:06:25 +1200
From:      Berend de Boer <berend@pobox.com>
To:        Markus Gebert <markus.gebert@hostpoint.ch>
Cc:        freebsd-fs <freebsd-fs@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: EBS snapshot backups from a FreeBSD zfs file system: zpool freeze?
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>>>>> "Markus" == Markus Gebert <markus.gebert@hostpoint.ch> writes:

    Markus> By 'mount' do you mean the import of the pool? Did you use
    Markus> -F on import? In any case, this sounds too long. Was the
    Markus> system doing IO?

Yep, did -F as well, I believe I have seen the most disastrous imports
in that case, i.e. empty disks.

And it did continuous I/O, as best as I could determine at max disk
performance.


    >> Another interesting thing I've seen was a completely empty
    >> drive after mount!

    Markus> That's a bit unspecific. What's empty? Disk full of zeros?
    Markus> Partition full of zeros? Pool without file system on it?
    Markus> Pool with empty filesystems?

With empty file systems.


    Markus> What you really need in that case is the ability to
    Markus> snapshot all EBS disks as group.

Which Linux offers.


    Markus> Anyway, with the tools at hand (no IO "freeze" like Linux,
    Markus> no EBS snapshots for groups of disks), I don't think you
    Markus> can acomplish what you originally intended.

Indeed.

I think my best strategy is doing frequent ZFS snapshots to a stand-by
server, and take the backups from there.

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All the best,

Berend de Boer


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