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Date:      Mon, 20 Jul 2026 17:09:22 +0200
From:      Damjan Jovanovic <damjan.jov@gmail.com>
To:        vermaden <vermaden@interia.pl>
Cc:        "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>,  "freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org" <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>,  "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org" <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Tragic State of FreeBSD Audio/Sound
Message-ID:  <CAJm2B-m5u=cgfiteQayAipVi5PScgro7=dEkXtir-YW-K%2BaRvg@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, Jul 20, 2026 at 2:05 AM vermaden <vermaden@interia.pl> wrote:

> Hi.
>
> For a start lets define some TERMS. I use UPPERCASE not to shout - but to
> underline a part of the sentence that is needed to be underlined - this is
> plain email - I do not have Bold/Underscore/Italic options - keep that in
> mind - now - to the core of the issue ...
>
> I always considered FreeBSD OSS audio/sound subsystem superior to all
> ALSA/PulseAudio/PipeWire and other dramas from the Linux world ... but not
> anymore.
>
> Somewhere between 14.3-RELEASE and 14.4-RELEASE things begin to get broken
> - I thought that upgrade to latest and greatest 15.1-RELEASE would solve my
> issues - as there were LOTS of sound/audio related things.
>

A regression test ("git bisect") would be very helpful in isolating this
regression. I would do one, but my sound is perfect, it needs to be done by
someone with sound problems.

Also only 15 commits to sys/dev/sound exist between the merge base of 14.3
and 14.4:

$ git merge-base release/14.3.0 release/14.4.0
ad1f2e80c8324716e80aa9d2955f42e68cc66308
$ git log ad1f2e80c8324716e80aa9d2955f42e68cc66308..release/14.4.0
sys/dev/sound | grep ^commit | wc -l
      15

so the bug is probably in one of those.

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<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 20, 2026 at 2:05 AM vermaden &lt;<a href="mailto:vermaden@interia.pl">vermaden@interia.pl</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi.<br>
<br>
For a start lets define some TERMS. I use UPPERCASE not to shout - but to underline a part of the sentence that is needed to be underlined - this is plain email - I do not have Bold/Underscore/Italic options - keep that in mind - now - to the core of the issue ...<br>
<br>
I always considered FreeBSD OSS audio/sound subsystem superior to all ALSA/PulseAudio/PipeWire and other dramas from the Linux world ... but not anymore.<br>
<br>
Somewhere between 14.3-RELEASE and 14.4-RELEASE things begin to get broken - I thought that upgrade to latest and greatest 15.1-RELEASE would solve my issues - as there were LOTS of sound/audio related things.<br></blockquote><div><br></div>A regression test (&quot;git bisect&quot;) would be very helpful in isolating this regression. I would do one, but my sound is perfect, it needs to be done by someone with sound problems.</div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container">Also only 15 commits to sys/dev/sound exist between the merge base of 14.3 and 14.4:</div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container">$ git merge-base release/14.3.0 release/14.4.0<br>ad1f2e80c8324716e80aa9d2955f42e68cc66308</div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container">$ git log ad1f2e80c8324716e80aa9d2955f42e68cc66308..release/14.4.0  sys/dev/sound | grep ^commit | wc -l<br>      15</div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container">so the bug is probably in one of those.</div></div>
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